Wouldn't you stand a far better chance of achieving reference monitoring using IEM?
Terminology may be a problem here too; "reference monitors" are very specific systems used to determine what a recording is going to sound like on consumer speaker systems.
Check out what James Cullen is reporting in his own thread about the CLRs and in his posts on this thread.
James in lucky enough to own a set of ATC 100a's which is some of the absolute best mixing and mastering grade reference monitors in the world at ANY price.
James has clearly stated that his CLRs compare very favorably to the ATC's, and that he is going to do a A/B shootout between them in a mixing situation.
I for one am really looking forward to read that review.
Nah, just quasi-FRFR.
FRFR is a goal. No speaker acheives it perfectly.
Quasi-FRFR is a goal, too. Full-range and flat enough to work with IRs, but flavored to favor guitar.
Depends on what you're trying to do.Isn't this what we actually need (quasi-FRFR)? (Not reference monitors...)
Depends on what you're trying to do.
If there's a particular color that pleases you, you might want to paint your pictures on a canvas that already has a hint of that color. Then quasi-FRFR is right for you.
If you trust your paints and your color-mixing ability, you'll want to paint on a canvas that's as white and neutral as possible. Then you're a FRFR guy.
Hi James, I have done some research as I am looking to pole mount a pair of CLRs at 45LBS each. A D.J. named Mike Ryan, invented these Gas powered-neutral buoyancy stands and previously sold them through Ultimate as the Ultimate-Support-TS-100B. The Ultimate Co. was sold and they cheapened the Prod so he started his own company
No more pinching your hands or hurting your back before you play. As of 2013, there are 3 different weight versions, F-1, F-2, and F-3 to achieve neutral buoyancy with different weight speakers, improved mechanics so they don't open in the bag or accidentally, new steel alum alloy for lighter weight / strength and bigger brake pads than the Ultimate stand ! HERE IS VIDEO Frankenstand Web Video - YouTube .
He reminds me of Cliff, as he invented it, he constantly upgrades it (UPGRADE VID NEW Frankenstand Overtightening Fix - YouTube ), and you can actually contact him. I just did, he was on his way to a gig, cool guy. Call Mike and speak with him but remember he works on weekends... 1-619-223-7587... if he doesn't answer use the email info@frankenstand.com
Simply brillant. How many times have I balanced an EON-15 over my head trying to reach the hole (No sexual parallell's please).
G66 must make those available in Europe.
Terminology may be a problem here too; "reference monitors" are very specific systems used to determine what a recording is going to sound like on consumer speaker systems.
Thanks RB but in order to do this I've got to pole mount them and am having trouble identifying what type of stand to use. Sorry to hijack this thread but I thought you might know the answer. Will a 35mm diameter speaker stand work? hopefully once this is done I can set up the room with the CLR and ATC100A using my Crane song Avocet studio controller which has some ofthe best DA convertors to send audio to the two sets of monitors. Should be a lot of fun!
Thanks . Im thinking of getting these. Do you think they will work
Millenium BS-2211B MKII Set, Aluminium speaker stand, Solid speaker stand with a maximum Load of 30kg, adjustable to a thomann height of up to 2 meters, length when closed 1.25m, pole diameter 35mm Weight: 2,16 kg. Pack of 2 pcs. including gigbag, Colour Black, Total Weight incl. Bag 4,73 Kg
Cheers bro
J
WIth it seems no discernible hope of me being invited to buy one yet, I can't answer any of my questions for myself, hence my raising these various discussion here.
BUt fair do's RB - the title of your thread is "CLR=Sonic Bliss". I don't want to interfere with the "bliss" aspect, and I'm certainly not going to question Jay and other cited gurus!!
Just be vigilant regarding the possibility of this thread becoming advertorial. I will certainly look forward to your gig in Oxford and the opportunity to sound check your CLRs - although I hope I don't have to wait quite so long.
Hi James, I have done some research as I am looking to pole mount a pair of CLRs at 45LBS each. A D.J. named Mike Ryan, invented these Gas powered-neutral buoyancy stands and previously sold them through Ultimate as the Ultimate-Support-TS-100B. The Ultimate Co. was sold and they cheapened the Prod so he started his own company
No more pinching your hands or hurting your back before you play. As of 2013, there are 3 different weight versions, F-1, F-2, and F-3 to achieve neutral buoyancy with different weight speakers, improved mechanics so they don't open in the bag or accidentally, new steel alum alloy for lighter weight / strength and bigger brake pads than the Ultimate stand ! HERE IS VIDEO Frankenstand Web Video - YouTube .
He reminds me of Cliff, as he invented it, he constantly upgrades it (UPGRADE VID NEW Frankenstand Overtightening Fix - YouTube ), and you can actually contact him. I just did, he was on his way to a gig, cool guy. Call Mike and speak with him and tell him I sent you, but remember he works on weekends... 1-619-223-7587... if he doesn't answer use the email info@frankenstand.com