X/Y Switching

My feeling is that XY is appreciated a lot around the board.
Effectively doubling the amount of fx (except for fx blocks without XY such as Tremolo) without taking a toll on CPU usage.
Also, delay/reverb spillover works fine with XY amp switching.

XY allows me to use 5 main presets for 90% of my bands' requirements, giving access to 10 amps and a lot of fx, without banking up/down.

There were some XY problems with 5.0x firmware, esp. concerning Amp and Cab blocks, but that's in the past. It's working very well.
 
It's so strange that I have been strongly directed away from the whole X/Y switching thing - I really can't imagine why at this point....

Do I need to go to the Kemper board to find the logic therein? :)
 
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Who is directing you away from X/Y switching? I use it all the time and love it. I personally use it for Amp, Delay and Reverb. I'd use it for more but then I'd lose some IA's on my MFC that I use for other stuff.

I've been using this feature since I got my Axe-Fx II with FW 1.02, I'm completely confident in it. The only drawback I've found in V6 thus far is that there can be a pop if you X/Y switch between amps with different tone stack location, which is easy enough to avoid.
 
Right now, my MFC-101 is displaying this - AXE-FX Name TimeOut.... wish I could take some time out :)

Hadley
 
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It all depends on the player and band requirements.

If you're always playing the same songs, with fixed arrangements, fixed sounds etc., nothing beats a preset/song approach. No need for tapdancing, you can concentrate on performance, errorproof. But it requires good preparation and there's less room for adjustments/changes on the fly.

Presets with IAs and XY offer room for improvisation, but require more concentration during performances. More risk of loosing track.

I used to program dedicated presets for all songs but it became too much work and maintenance, playing in 3 bands. Having access to 5 generic presets with all flexibility built in (and a number of additional effect-specific presets) just serves me better, saves preparation time and I can adapt my tone to whatever I feel like doing at the moment.
 
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Radley said:
Right now, my MFC-101 is displaying the same sign I've seen for the last 1.5 hours - AXE-FX Name TimeOut!

This is in no way helpful nor explanatory to what the h#ll is going on - so I am taking an AFX time out as well...

Goodnite! :)

Hadley
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Verify that SendRealtimeSysex on Axe is switched on, that MFC is set to Expansion, AxeFx II and AxeFx Mode, and that the cable seats firmly.
 
yek said:
It all depends on the player and band requirements.

If you're always playing the same songs, with fixed arrangements, fixed sounds etc., nothing beats a preset/song approach. No need for tapdancing, you can concentrate on performance, errorproof. But it requires good preparation and there's less room for adjustments/changes on the fly.

Presets with IAs and XY offer room for improvisation, but require more concentration during performances. More risk of loosing track.

I used to program dedicated presets for all songs but it became too much work and maintenance, playing in 3 bands.
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Exactly! I don't want to be locked into anything, and neither does my Boss, so I am happy to carry the responsibility of selecting the appropriate presets at the appropriate time...
 
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No problems with X/Y here. But I'm using it to get a second set of tones from one amp and changing a couple of FX settings so I can get a solo tone and a rhythm tone out of each patch. But I stick to the same amp/fx combo, so my Bassman is set for quite clean on X and melting on Y etc. That's great for me as it's a similar tone, just more hair and volume. It's a really neat feature that's so easy to set up, makes up for all the missing cc assignments!
 
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But I stick to the same amp/fx combo, so my Bassman is set for quite clean on X and melting on Y etc.
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I do the same as HJM and it works great. For each patch my default is Y. When it comes solo time I switch to X, which uses the same amp/cab combo, but has the amp volume increased 1 or 2db (either Master or Gain, just depends). I might bump up the drive a little on X too. This allows me to keep a consistent tone between rhythm and lead sounds, as well as provide a boost without resorting to another IA. Very nice feature indeed.
 
Can X/Y also store an effect's bypass status? In other words, can it be used as 'a poor man's bypass' as well?
 
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i use it.. usually to have a lower gain sound, then a higher gain sound on the same preset. Say X is the Marsha HB, Y is the HBE. or Cameron channel 1 channel 2. use for lead boosts too sometimes.
 
The possibilities are limitless but like many others, I use it solely for amp X/Y to add a little hair when needed. I name the pre-set like this so I can see them in my MFC and remember which ones have X/Y and which ones don't. Example: AC30 | AC30TB
 
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Can X/Y also store an effect's bypass status? In other words, can it be used as 'a poor man's bypass' as well?
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I could be wrong, but I don't think the bypass status is stored. I seem to remember trying this using my GCP.
 
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Can X/Y also store an effect's bypass status? In other words, can it be used as 'a poor man's bypass' as well?
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No, bypass is NOT affected by X/Y state. Bypass is a state of the block, not the amplifier settings themselves. You can test this easily for yourself by clicking "X", then pressing FX BYP, then click "Y"--you'll see the block is still bypassed.
 
I use X/Y same as most on here, for 2 amp sounds, but I like the feature much better with a different controller. For example, on my LF Pro I have IAs set for one delay block. We'll call them IA 1 and 2. 1 (X) would be a short or simple delay and 2 (Y) would be a long or complex delay. If I push either one of those IA's it will act like an independent delay block with on and off function. If 1 (X) is already active and I push 2, 1 will automatically be lit on my board as off and 2 (Y) will be activated. They are 2 delays that aren't complementary so I don't want to use them together. Another I use is a phaser with X set to phase 90 and Y to a vibrato. With the drive block, I usually have a small boost and medium boost. I find I use the combo of TS and BB or fet and TS a lot. Mix the drive X/Y with the amp X/Y and you end up with clean (ampX), little grit (ampX drvX), medium crunch (ampX drvY), crunch (ampY), more crunch (ampY drvX), heavy (ampY drvY). 3 IA's and 3 effect blocks. I don't always use it that way. Sometimes it's that X drive works with X amp and Y drive works with Y amp.
 
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And do you find that the delay/dropout time is not a dealbreaker?
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Hi Radley,

When you say/refer to "delay/dropout-time" as a dealbreaker, are you referring to "preset-change latency" (Someone in these forums listed 30-mSecs as the preset-change latency, but I did NOT personally measure this!) or are you referring to (literally) a "delay-effect" getting chopped-off? I'm sure you're aware about the delay not needing to get chopped-off, correct? Spillover, controlling delay input-level, etc, are a few ways to get your "delay-tails" to spillover/decay naturally. BTW, I am NOT sure, but I would THINK that the "X/Y-switching/staying-in-one-preset" approach would be a lot faster (less latency?) than the "preset-switching," but again, I'm NOT sure?

Has anyone measured this?

Thanks.

Bill
 
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