MIPRO all the way. It is flawless and had zero issues in many years of use. Digital and will do pick up interference.Resurrecting an old thread...
Anyone still using and recommend the MiPro? I am leaning really heavy towards the SennG4 but this MiPro seems to be a really good option.
I need a stereo set after using mono Shures and recently the XVive.
Resurrecting an old thread...
Anyone still using and recommend the MiPro? I am leaning really heavy towards the SennG4 but this MiPro seems to be a really good option.
I need a stereo set after using mono Shures and recently the XVive.
MIPRO all the way. I is flawless and had zero issue sin many years of use. Digital and will do pick up interference.
Having had my Senn G3 for a few years and running a STEREO mix, I've recently done a ton of research on whether the upgrade to the G4 or some other system is worth the expen$e!
The Mipro specs are awesome.. only one issue... I can't find ANYWHERE that shows the system has a built-in LIMITER.
NOT only does it NOT have an adjustable limiter, it doesn't appear to have a limiter AT ALL!
As someone who has been [exclusively] on IEM's for close to 10 yrs, this automatically scrubs them from my list.
One ASOLUTELY HAS to HAVE a limiter in ANY IEM system.. to protect your hearing!
Wait until someone drops a hand-held mic!!
Other than that, the specs are awesome and would put the 909 System back at the top of my upgrade list.. ahead of the G$
If someone can prove me incorrect, I'll happily add it back!
To be blunt, I'm simply will NOT buy a wireless system that doesn't have a limiter included. I'd even pay extra for it, but I don't want anecdotal evidence of "how great it is".. it either has a limiter or it doesn't! Nor will I add one into the chain in today's digital tech age.
My $0.02
Well, not to throw a wrench in the works, but since I posted my comments above that you quoted, I've talked with a number of "pros" who build IEM systems for "national acts" both on the phone and online, NONE seem to care about in-line limiters anymore!I understand your point regarding the limiter. I will check on that now that you brought it up.
All I will say is I've been using the MiPro for quite a while and more recently 3 other guys in the band also purchased these 909 systems. We have a combiner that allows us to use one fin antennae for all of us. AMAZING results!! Super clear.
Belt packs are dual antenna, optional mono or stereo, along with EQ options as well. Quite a few channels to choose from too.
We play stages of all sizes, indoors and outdoors, and the only issue we have ever had was the connecting wire that goes from the back jack to the front jack "went out" after a re-racking. Caused some problems momentarily, yet once we found the problem, we were back to impeccable performance. A couple of us have other systems that are now backups, including Sennheiser and Shure.
Of course, YMMV and to each his own. Use what you find to be the best for YOUR application.
So... How are you addressing the risk? Hard knee compression on your digital mixer?Well, not to throw a wrench in the works, but since I posted my comments above that you quoted, I've talked with a number of "pros" who build IEM systems for "national acts" both on the phone and online, NONE seem to care about in-line limiters anymore!
I've been on IEM's for 10+ yrs.. I guess technology has changed quite a bit in the interval, and (I checked) I've had my G3 for SIX years now!
WOW.. time flies!
Based on that feedback... I [literally] just bought a MI-909 to replace my aging Senn G3.
Far CHEAPER than a G4 upgrade.
When A/B'ing the 2 systems at home with same baselines (cuz next gig isn't 'til 6/12), there's simply no comparison between the 2.
Mipro WINS hands down - in every category, except... the missing limiter!
Anxious to try it out at my next gig..
I plan to sell the G3 as my backup is going sans IEM and I need to offset the expense - not many gigs in the last 18 months!
Every IEM output gets the same processing chain: 5band parametric EQ, peak limiter, general compressor, dynamic EQ or “broadcast” processing and final safety limiter. Bypass the unnecessary modules. Device settings are important and must “play nicely with each other”. I mostly use Symetrix “Symnet” programmable processors, often via Danté dig transport.So... How are you addressing the risk? Hard knee compression on your digital mixer?
Yes, if necessary. My X32 Rack - which runs our monitor mixes has both brick-wall limiter settings available on the output buss compressor, and supports inserting a [built-in] Limiter on the same buss.. So lot's of choices.So... How are you addressing the risk? Hard knee compression on your digital mixer?
Put limiter on the aux send you are using for IEM. Problem solved.Having had my Senn G3 for a few years and running a STEREO mix, I've recently done a ton of research on whether the upgrade to the G4 or some other system is worth the expen$e!
The Mipro specs are awesome.. only one issue... I can't find ANYWHERE that shows the system has a built-in LIMITER.
NOT only does it NOT have an adjustable limiter, it doesn't appear to have a limiter AT ALL!
As someone who has been [exclusively] on IEM's for close to 10 yrs, this automatically scrubs them from my list.
One ASOLUTELY HAS to HAVE a limiter in ANY IEM system.. to protect your hearing!
Wait until someone drops a hand-held mic!!
Other than that, the specs are awesome and would put the 909 System back at the top of my upgrade list.. ahead of the G$
If someone can prove me incorrect, I'll happily add it back!
To be blunt, I'm simply will NOT buy a wireless system that doesn't have a limiter included. I'd even pay extra for it, but I don't want anecdotal evidence of "how great it is".. it either has a limiter or it doesn't! Nor will I add one into the chain in today's digital tech age.
My $0.02
5.84ms. The latency from a floor wedge 6 feet away is comparable to the 6ms latency in your ears.What about latency? I am specifically referring to using the Mipro for VOCALS.
There's nothing worse than hearing yourself through monitors 5 or 10 ms after you hear yourself through your own skull.
I have not tried the MiPro but I'd like to hear some feedback from users using them with vocals.
Yes, I m aware of that. I just would like to have comments from vocalists on using them. Do you sing?5.84ms. The latency from a floor wedge 6 feet away is comparable to the 6ms latency in your ears.
Back ups. So not really!Yes, I m aware of that. I just would like to have comments from vocalists on using them. Do you sing?