Why not much love for the EVM12L speaker?

[Joe Bfstplk]

I picked up a Thiele IR that has an EV SRO in it at some point. I have had both a pair of EVM12Ls and and EVM12L and EV SRO pairing in a Fender Twin at some point in the '90s. The word 'heavy' feels like a lie if not modified by at least an F-bomb when describing that amp. I had the big 3" snap-in wheels, thankfully. Rolled it past the TV once, and it pulled all the colors but green to the bottom of the screen, where they stayed for a month. The wife was not nearly as amused with this as I was.

 

[Joe Bfstplk]

Oh hell yess!! They weigh a bloody ton. So much mass in my IIC- combo, with that speaker! I probably still walk with my right shoulder closer to the ground than my left!

The MS12 Black Shadow wasn't a helium-infused feather either. I know that feel, bro....

 

[is9582]

The MS12 Black Shadow wasn't a helium-infused feather either. I know that feel, bro....

Very true! My other guitarist bought his Boogie after playing mine. He decided not to splurge and got the Black Shadow instead of the EV. I couldn’t tell much if any diff between our amps, regarding their weight. And wouldn’t you know, his arrived and was the IIC+! Not that any of that meant anything to us in 1983/1984. Lol

 

[Joe Bfstplk]

Very true! My other guitarist bought his Boogie after playing mine. He decided not to splurge and got the Black Shadow instead of the EV. I couldn’t tell much if any diff between our amps, regarding their weight. And wouldn’t you know, his arrived and was the IIC+! Not that any of that meant anything to us in 1983/1984. Lol

I got mine around then, too. 60W with EQ, cream/white tolex. SN #12118.

 

[is9582]

I got mine around then, too. 60W with EQ, cream/white tolex. SN #12118.

I I too went with 60W with EQ, black tolex. SN #11614.

 

[is9582]

Forgot I was going to post this photo too.

 

[Chiguete]

Rolled it past the TV once, and it pulled all the colors but green to the bottom of the screen, where they stayed for a month. The wife was not nearly as amused with this as I was.

jajajajajajajajaja now THAT's only funny to a guitarist lol.

 

[2112]

I can't remember if they were 12L's but I shot a Mesa cab recently with some EV's in it

https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/mesa-os-4x12-irs-free.158681/

 

[is9582]

I can't remember if they were 12L's but I shot a Mesa cab recently with some EV's in it

https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/mesa-os-4x12-irs-free.158681/

Thanks Leon. I noticed that only the IRs identified as mixed in the names, shows a capture curve. All the other seem to be a flat line, when looking to align in AxeEdit. What am I doing wrong?? Cheers

 

[Chiguete]

I can't remember if they were 12L's but I shot a Mesa cab recently with some EV's in it

https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/mesa-os-4x12-irs-free.158681/

How can you live yourself whithout knowing the model??? jejeje. Ask your friend to do us all a favor and verify the model of the speakers

 

[200man]

I had 2 in a twin reverb 71 silverface and the speakers sounded great...one of my favorite speakers!

 

[unix-guy]

Thanks Leon. I noticed that only the IRs identified as mixed in the names, shows a capture curve. All the other seem to be a flat line, when looking to align in AxeEdit. What am I doing wrong?? Cheers

The Align tab shows the graphic for each "active" IR in the Cab block.

If it doesn't show then you've got that IR muted.

 

[yek]

The EV-12L is a wonderful speaker, for clean and for dirty. One of my favorites.

But only if you have the luxury of playing loud. It's too stiff, brittle and sterile at low volume levels.

 

[Dave Merrill]

The EV-12L is a wonderful speaker, for clean and for dirty. One of my favorites.

But only if you have the luxury of playing loud. It's too stiff, brittle and sterile at low volume levels.

I wonder how that would manifest in an IR capture. Would you need to capture at high volume? That's not usually a thing afaik, but I've never created an IR myself, not an expert by any means.

 

[Valhallir]

One of the first Valhallir V2-cab packs was this:

https://valhallir.at/en/shop/v2-mhb412/

 

[Colorado Axeman]

cabir.eu Core 4-tone starter pack has a Thiele 1x12 loaded with an EV 12L. fwiw the whole pack is well worth the discount price. The tweed cab scratches my itch when I want a Beatles/Stones-esque tone.

 

[Dave Merrill]

One of the first Valhallir V2-cab packs was this:

https://valhallir.at/en/shop/v2-mhb412/View attachment 66672

Interesting cab! Seems hard to capture. Did you mic both types of speakers?

 

[finleysound]

The EV-12L is a wonderful speaker, for clean and for dirty. One of my favorites.

But only if you have the luxury of playing loud. It's too stiff, brittle and sterile at low volume levels.

Interesting. I prefer them at moderate levels.

 

[Stratman68]

I love them. Have quite a few. Think I got them from OH long ago. I still use them. I play for a long time with a MusicMan 112 RD50 for many, many years. Beautiful EV12L in it made the sound huge. Alas I sold it because my back told me to...........wish I still had it. Always enjoyed the hybrid MuscMan combo amps. Owned a few different thru my life. All gone...........

 

[Valhallir]

Interesting cab! Seems hard to capture. Did you mic both types of speakers?

Of course. The upper speakers are MC-90 Black Shadows, they belong to my absolute faves. We mic every speaker from the cabinets we capture with every mike, including midfield and farfield IRs.
As the EV-12Ls are really interesting speakers, I like the MC-90 Black Shadows more, so I'm very happy, that we found this Halfback cab with both speaker types in it.

BTW: This was one of the first cabs from our "V2" series, so there are some mic-types missing and other ones appeared.

The used microphones were:
AKG D202, AKG C-414, Sennheiser e906, Sennheiser MD421, Shure Sm57, Shure Sm7-B, Audix i5, sE Electronics V7X, 4400aII, sE8 and X1R (Ribbon)