Loss Mentality
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I recently got an AXE FX III and am setting up a preset for using a real amp via the 4CM.
So the connections are: guitar-> I1 -> O3L -> Amp In -> Amp FX Send -> I3L -> O4L -> Amp FX Return
And then I created a preset that just has the above I/O blocks. All is well.
Now I'm experimenting with dropping a reverb block into the amp's FX loop, so between the I3 input block and the O4 output block on the grid. I'm using Axe Edit to do all of this.
My amp's FX loop can be set for either parallel or serial, so I start experimenting with the amp's serial FX loop mode, in which case I want to be able to control the amount of reverb by setting the AXE reverb block's mix parameter. What I've noticed, however, is that the reverb block's mix parameter is controlling the output level of the block instead of the mix. As in, no matter where I set the mix, the sound seems to be all reverb, and the mix is instead controlling the block's output level. Thus, if I set that mix to 0%, the block has no output, which I can verify by going into the mode where meters for all blocks are shown on the AXE front panel GUI. As I turn mix up from 0 to 100, I see the output meter showing no output at 0, and then increasing output as I move mix to 100.
Now, if I drop a reverb block in front of my amp (i.e. between I1 and O3), the mix parameter behaves as I'd expect: it just sets the amount of reverb in the signal, without impacting the output level.
So I got to thinking, is the AXE somehow understanding the reverb block in the amp FX loop is in parallel and thus maxing the mix parameter work differently? Well, I tried going to normal AXE preset (so my amp's not being used, just guitar -> I1 -> O1 -> FRFR speaker). And I set up a reverb block in parallel to the main signal chain, but here the mix still behaves as I'd expect (i.e. mix controls the amount of reverb in the signal/0% mix doesn't mute the output).
So the main difference between my preset for the physical amp vs the preset for the FRFR is that the former has multiple inputs and outputs in use on the grid and the reverb block is not taking input from input 1.
Can anyone confirm this behavior? Am I missing something? Doing something dumb? If I want to use my amp's fx loop in serial mode, it would seem I need to be able to control the mix of the AXE blocks sitting in the amp fx loop, but as it stands, mix is essentially acting as an output level control, not a mix control. Of course, for parallel, I would have the reverb's mix at 100%, and the reverb's output level parameter does still impact its output volume, so that would be workable.
I've done a lot of googling to see if I can find something about this, but I can't, hence my first post here on this forum.
Thanks!
So the connections are: guitar-> I1 -> O3L -> Amp In -> Amp FX Send -> I3L -> O4L -> Amp FX Return
And then I created a preset that just has the above I/O blocks. All is well.
Now I'm experimenting with dropping a reverb block into the amp's FX loop, so between the I3 input block and the O4 output block on the grid. I'm using Axe Edit to do all of this.
My amp's FX loop can be set for either parallel or serial, so I start experimenting with the amp's serial FX loop mode, in which case I want to be able to control the amount of reverb by setting the AXE reverb block's mix parameter. What I've noticed, however, is that the reverb block's mix parameter is controlling the output level of the block instead of the mix. As in, no matter where I set the mix, the sound seems to be all reverb, and the mix is instead controlling the block's output level. Thus, if I set that mix to 0%, the block has no output, which I can verify by going into the mode where meters for all blocks are shown on the AXE front panel GUI. As I turn mix up from 0 to 100, I see the output meter showing no output at 0, and then increasing output as I move mix to 100.
Now, if I drop a reverb block in front of my amp (i.e. between I1 and O3), the mix parameter behaves as I'd expect: it just sets the amount of reverb in the signal, without impacting the output level.
So I got to thinking, is the AXE somehow understanding the reverb block in the amp FX loop is in parallel and thus maxing the mix parameter work differently? Well, I tried going to normal AXE preset (so my amp's not being used, just guitar -> I1 -> O1 -> FRFR speaker). And I set up a reverb block in parallel to the main signal chain, but here the mix still behaves as I'd expect (i.e. mix controls the amount of reverb in the signal/0% mix doesn't mute the output).
So the main difference between my preset for the physical amp vs the preset for the FRFR is that the former has multiple inputs and outputs in use on the grid and the reverb block is not taking input from input 1.
Can anyone confirm this behavior? Am I missing something? Doing something dumb? If I want to use my amp's fx loop in serial mode, it would seem I need to be able to control the mix of the AXE blocks sitting in the amp fx loop, but as it stands, mix is essentially acting as an output level control, not a mix control. Of course, for parallel, I would have the reverb's mix at 100%, and the reverb's output level parameter does still impact its output volume, so that would be workable.
I've done a lot of googling to see if I can find something about this, but I can't, hence my first post here on this forum.
Thanks!
