What amp to achieve this sound?

Velokki

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Hi fractalites! I'm an Axe 2 user.

I'm making a punk rock song, and trying to nail this guitar tone:


What kind of patch would you go for? I already got a Gibson Les Paul and the guitar sounds great. I just find finding the right amp + cab combo to be very challenging. It always seems to not sound like I want it to, haha.

What amp would you recommend, and what characteristics do you hear, that should be taken into account?

Thanks a lot, people!
 
It's not just the amp, a Les Paul Jr. with dog ear P90's plays a big part in the sound.

Brian Baker uses a pair of 1990's 50W Marshall 1987x with a pair of Marshall 1960 B cabs. Both amps have the Dookie mod (Bradshaw gain Mod).
Billie Joe Armstrong uses 100W Mashall 1959 SLP heads.

Mike Dimkich uses a 100W Marshal JMP and a Mesa Boogie MK II B going through a Marshall 4x12 1960 A (Boogie) and B cabs with Celestion V30's.
Check out this video for all the juicy details.

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/29586-rig-rundown-bad-religion
 
Thanks a lot for the replies! I did see the rig rundown, but I deemed the info quite unusable for this.

I'm pretty sure they used Les Pauls in 2004 when The Empire Strikes First was done. Nowadays their sound is also much less raw and gritty than it was on that record. I think the sound on Empire Strikes First is the golden standard for modernish punk rock, and they moved away from that great sound after it.

Any other tips regarding particularly the Empire Strikes First sound?
 
Are you trying to get an album tone? Because that's at least double-tracked guitars you're hearing.
 
Yes! And purely for recording, not for live performance :)

Are you double tracking the sounds you're trying out? I would start digging for how many lawyers are on that song, who the producer was and what techniques they use often - and find out how much of what you're chasing is the guitar+bass+drums.
 


Man, these punk band rig rundows are as boring gearwise as one where the guitarist uses an Axe-FX. Here we have a guitar, here we have an amp, done. An effective sound, but like with an Axe-FX running into an FOH extremely boring on the gear porn.
 
Man, these punk band rig rundows are as boring gearwise as one where the guitarist uses an Axe-FX. Here we have a guitar, here we have an amp, done. An effective sound, but like with an Axe-FX running into an FOH extremely boring on the gear porn.

Yeah, I always get bummed when they don’t discuss what they’re actually doing in the AxeFX. I know if it were me being interviewed, I’d have a laptop setup with AxeEdit so I could actually show the rig I was using outside of hardware.
 
Hi fractalites! I'm an Axe 2 user.

I'm making a punk rock song, and trying to nail this guitar tone:


What kind of patch would you go for? I already got a Gibson Les Paul and the guitar sounds great. I just find finding the right amp + cab combo to be very challenging. It always seems to not sound like I want it to, haha.

What amp would you recommend, and what characteristics do you hear, that should be taken into account?

Thanks a lot, people!

I think maybe an overdriven Vox most of the punk band were from England , Vox amps were very popular
 
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