I'm anxiously waiting for my XiTone wedge to come. Could you explain the difference between your FRFR PA and the XiTone? Do you build your tones on the XiTone and then use just the PA for live sound? If so, what kinds of things are you paying attention to during tone design?The latest revelation for me has been getting an older used XiTone active wedge. That's been very enlightening in terms of what a huge difference there really is between a typical PA type FRFR (Alto or QSC in my case) and something like a XiTone. The difference in overall detail is hard to explain, but I love it.
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So Cab is finished. Very happy. It does sound killer I have to say!.
But one thing I have to do is pay my respect to the likes of Xitone who create cabs at amazing prices and value. This cab cost me around 600 with the amp speakers , Baltic birch wood, caster wheels , insulation, DuraTex paint, screws, wire, female connectors, and and and . Then the labor involved would cost another 600 at least, as I make everything by hand..lol. Dovetail saws, no.4 plane etc...
Unless you have the time to commit to making a cab that you want and to your own specs, buying a xitone or atomic is IMO value for money.
I suspect you're going to love your XiTone once you get it. As I mentioned, it's hard to explain. Trying to describe sonic qualities is like trying to describe how food tastes. Words just come up short in the end, and some things you just have to experience for yourself. The XiTone somehow makes my sounds feel more detailed. As in more accurate, and particularly more amp-like. This term, "GRFR" comes to mind. I think there is something to that concept. Something like a synth benefits considerably more from an actual FRFR box (just due to the frequencies it operates in) than a guitar modeler does.I'm anxiously waiting for my XiTone wedge to come. Could you explain the difference between your FRFR PA and the XiTone? Do you build your tones on the XiTone and then use just the PA for live sound? If so, what kinds of things are you paying attention to during tone design?
Thanks for the detailed reply, and especially for this tip. Makes a ton of sense.One of the other things that helped a lot was playing a tune, or jam track through my studio monitors (I use Adam A7's) and playing along, using the tune as an overall frame of reference....
Hi!This depends a lot on your studio monitor setup. For example I run a pretty much full range sound with my monitors and a sub that's very low in the mix and I measure everything with measurement mics so that I get a very neutral sound in my control room. I never have problems taking my guitar sounds out live. Sure if you're using small speakers that especially don't give you a realistic representation of the low end and if you're room is not treated properly then you shouldn't trust that sound.
Interesting that you post this now. As I have been listening to my newly built cab and comparing it to the sound I get through my studio monitors - AX7s. The Cab? - sounds killer! The monitors? - sounds killer. Are they different in sound? Well yeah! Very different. So now how do I dial in good sound on the AX8 now? .........dilemma.Hi!
i highly suspect that many people here do not have the tool to mesure a room. and even with a good mic and a Smmart it not only a matter of running your listen position flat.
this is why i suggest them to A/B good mix with good IR (like the stuff you do) and not over EQ in post.
i will do a video of a more in-depth preset build with acoustic in mind.
Yes. This is not something that I would not want to do commercially. I enjoyed making it and probably saved around $1000 only because I went for a 2x12. (Excluding the Labor of love).Nice build!
I get the DIY thing and like it a lot but it has to be a labor of love. Unless you have the means to crank out your idea in mass and have the resale licence to buy wholesale you really don't save yourself anything as you have pointed out.
The other thing is in the past 10 years the market has become so saturated at this point with Atomic, Xitone, Mission, Friedman, Line 6, then add all of the prosumer PA monitor cabs out their competing for your dollar, trying to climb on the train would be practically impossible.
We do the same thing. We rehearse with our live rig. Also, if we are using a house rig, we ask that all EQ's are set flat, then ask them to "dial it in" (which is ALWAYS subjective) during sound check.I bring one of my band's PA speakers home and set up my sound through it.
* Tell the other band members to be less loud when soloing, no need to fight soloists and singers on-stage when performing.This concept is near and dear to my heart......I struggle so very much with my live sound (pretty much the reason I got the AX8). The most often complaint is that I just cannot really hear myself play solos above the soundstage of the rest of the band. One observation is that — sometimes — the sound / tone which sounds best in a home practice format might not be the same tone which does the best job at cutting through the band mix. That is just my opinion; I am still learning.......