Yea. Really hard to show me worse traffic than the bay.No worse than were the OP is coming from.
Yea. Really hard to show me worse traffic than the bay.No worse than were the OP is coming from.
Los AngelesYea. Really hard to show me worse traffic than the bay.
I hear Austin suffers from the same problem as California, as in California politics. Most Texans I hear online seem to say its best to avoid. This is what I hear, so I can't verify this.
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Tennessee is brilliant. Texas, too, in different ways. (Not as much to my liking, flora-and-fauna-wise and weather-wise.) The right parts of Georgia and North and South Carolina are pretty great, too. I've lived in most of those areas. They all have their bad bits (sticky humid summertimes are high on the list) but, taking one thing with another and considering the alternatives, they're still very good. And you'll be welcome. I've certainly been blessed by all my friendships with folks who fled California for one reason or another, and unless they're hiding something, they certainly seem happy to be here.
NOTE: People accustomed to places like Arizona (and to a lesser degree, some parts of California) have reported feeling vaguely claustrophobic when outdoors in North Carolina, north Georgia, Tennessee, etc. because so much area is shaded by overarching trees with relatively dense foliage. For the same reason, I, having been raised in the latter areas, do not regard California as "adequately green," not even northern California. (And the mesas of the Southwest are interesting but stark: I'd never want to live near them.) To me, the "golden hills" of California, and even wine country, just look brown and barren, and even Muir Woods seems dry and the trees have too few branches. It's a difference of preference...but it's surprising how keenly one can feel it. My favorite outdoor experiences are always associated with the dappled silver light filtered through the oak boughs and pines (higher up) and then (one level down), the dogwoods. The contrast is felt more profoundly the closer you are to mountains; the coastal plains don't have such a profound effect. Anyway, if that's your jam, get ye to the Appalachians, or at least Nashville, as fast as can be.
yes...gorgeous...eastern tennesee is the most beautiful part of tennessee...if you want big city lifestyle look elsewhere....but asheville nc is a beautiful area and worthy of a visit@iaresee the area in Tennessee coming from the Asheville, NC area through the Great Smoky Mountains is brilliant. Nashville is really cool for music of course. Otherwise, it's a pretty typical US city although it seems less jam packed than other cities.
Roger that....eastern tennesee is the most beautiful part of tennessee...if you want big city lifestyle look elsewhere....but asheville nc is a beautiful area and worthy of a visit
dittoRoger that.
I'm constitutionally allergic to "big city lifestyle." I don't mean that I'm corn-pone and country-fried or anything. I like symphony orchestras and museums, so I'll dare to enter a city on rare occasion in pursuit of those. But it gives me bad vibes, like swimming in a toxin-contaminated lake. It's like "Land of Confusion": "There's too many men, too many people, making too many problems, and not much love to go 'round." That's penned by someone stuck in a city. Nobody feels that way when they're paused at a Blue Ridge Parkway overlook having homemade cobbler and drinking coffee from a thermos.
But Chattanooga and Knoxville (both in Eastern Tennessee) are small enough and close enough to the trees and the mountains that they don't give me that vibe. It only takes ten minutes' drive from the center of Chattanooga to be halfway up a mountain. And Rock City at Christmastime is kinda beautiful, and certainly fun for the kids.
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Good luck. The unusual politics of the deep south is one of the major issues for anyone considering living there .
Having moved to Denver a couple of years ago after 8 years in the Utah mountains, I really can agree with this. We moved for better business opportunities, fair enough. But it was a hard transition at first - I really miss the smaller town vibe (and we were still 45 mins from Salt Lake City when we wanted concerts, sports, theater, foodie hangouts, etc). Denver's cool as far as big cities go but still, meh... give me trees and creeks and open spaces and blue skies. And skiing ;-) At least I'm near the mountains, unlike almost everywhere else.I'm constitutionally allergic to "big city lifestyle." I don't mean that I'm corn-pone and country-fried or anything. I like symphony orchestras and museums, so I'll dare to enter a city on rare occasion in pursuit of those. But it gives me bad vibes, like swimming in a toxin-contaminated lake. It's like "Land of Confusion": "There's too many men, too many people, making too many problems, and not much love to go 'round." That's penned by someone stuck in a city. Nobody feels that way when they're paused at a Blue Ridge Parkway overlook having homemade cobbler and drinking coffee from a thermos.
You can always check out Nebraska! We have..... cornfields.... and............um..........er......... yeah! It's great here
Yea. Really hard to show me worse traffic than the bay.
I took a job at a less glamorous company last fall to cut my commute from 1.5 hours to 20 minutes one-way and the improvement to my life was remarkable. Now, with working from home and never commuting at all, I'm ready to only consider jobs that will allow mostly work from home for the rest of my career. I don't mind a quarterly visit to an office. Even every 6th week. But daily? Never again.DC is pretty bad. It's kind of the same deal, where people will willingly buy houses 90 miles and commute in though. I'll never understand it. I worked with a guy that commuted in from West Virginia every day.
I took a job at a less glamorous company last fall to cut my commute from 1.5 hours to 20 minutes one-way and the improvement to my life was remarkable. Now, with working from home and never commuting at all, I'm ready to only consider jobs that will allow mostly work from home for the rest of my career. I don't mind a quarterly visit to an office. Even every 6th week. But daily? Never again.