vAmp said:
tonygtr said:
Everything I stated is correct, if anyone says anything else, I know for a fact that they are wrong
LOL :mrgreen:
TYVM
again, tonygtr
Do you also know the importance of the detuning parameters for the most cheesiest of 80ies (chorused) lead tones?
I mean, which values would you program on the Axe and was the detuner in series with the Tri-Chorus or in parallel?
Again, I believe I've seen info and presets both ways.
I always used to think the detuning was one of the "magic" factors to get that "edge", but maybe it's no more than a thickener. In my DigiTech GSP-2101 days, I used to have a preset that seemed to come close for me, and I thought it was because of the detuning parameters. However, the same parameters (which I lost) didn't work like that in the G-Force, so maybe it was something else, or detuning sounds different on different units...
For first timers, also listen to joCCes sounds/presets:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6123
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5279
There may be much more, but I'm only starting to dig in the older presets.
BTW: here's the thread with the flanger settings from Stef Herbuel:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5727
Sorry about that last line that you qouted. I know it sounds a bit arrogant, but I've read so many things about his use of delays that just isn't true :mrgreen:
Luke used detuning quite alot for his "cheesy" tones. He will give a quick rundown of what used in different periods:
84-86: Dytronics Tri-Stereo Chorus (no detune for the most part, although he had an really early 70s Eventide H-series Clock Works in his rack that he used some times).
86-87: Dytronics Tri-Stereo Chorus, and also an newer grey Eventide in his rack, but it rarely got used.
87: TC 2290 and Yamaha SPX90 replace the Dytronics and Eventide. Detune use got more prominent ( I think, hard to tell from bootlegs from this time ).
88: TC 1210 replace the 2290 for chorus, Yamaha SPX90 for detune.
89: TC 2290 went back into the rig, still Yamaha SPX90 for detune
90-97: TC 1210 (again!) for chorus, Eventide H3000S for detune.
98-08. TC G-Force for both chorus and detune.
08-current: TC M-One for detune, custom racked Boss unit for chorus. Never used together anymore though. Detune used as a widener, chorus more for fast and slow leslie type sounds.
There is also alot of missinformation about how he used his detune together with his chorus. I've heard it all :mrgreen: Anyways, he first ran the signal into the chorus unit, then ran his chorus to the mixer (Mix 1), and used a tap of the LEFT SIDE of the chorused signal into his detune, and then into Mix 2, then out to his poweramps. All credible informition ( schematics directly from Bob Bradshaw ) show that Bradshaw wired up pretty much all his rigs like this when it came to chorus and detune.
If you want the Tri-Stereo chorus era of Luke, then there is a nice preset of a guy called Enzo why copied his Tri-Stereo unit into the quadchorus of the Axe. The preset is up on Axechange ( use the new editor to find it ). If you want the era of around 88 and forward, use a simple stereo chorus set for a slow and wide sound, and with the detune set at +9/0ms -9/25ms. Those are the standard detune settings from the Eventide he used around 90 (those are also the exact same settings EVH used ). You can also try Landaus detune settings, +13/4ms -11/9ms for a more prominent effect. Use the chorus in parallel to your dry tone, then run one line of the output back to your dry signal, and one to a vol block. Use the vol block to only use the left side of the signal, then send it to a pitch block, and then send the pitch block back to the dry signal.