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My name is mud

My name is mud

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I’m asking if someone can do a a/b video comparaison of his head (whatever recto) with a loadbox and the dual or triple in the box … with the same ir etc

Since day one, this is one of the amp in the unit that I loved when I was playing them, and fight to do presets that I like. I have a decent result, I have tried everything already, millions of irs settings this and that, but I’m never crazy as I was, when I was playing them …… un-micked. And I know this is a huge difference .
So if someone can take a little bit of his time, to show me that the real head miced sound like this …or if cliff can do some magic revisiting it as he constantly progress and the sim may be old(?) or … thank you
 
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York Audio said:
2-Channel or 3-Channel version? I’ve got a Rev F, Tremoverb, and a 3-Channel Multi-Watt Triple Rec, so I might be able to make a clip for you.
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Rev F ♥️ . 2 Channels more
Whatever it takes you less time

The head with your favorite settings and then the unit tweaked to be as close as possible with the same ir
Thank youuuu
 
I was randomly watching videos in YouTube watching some boogie porn, and listen to this one :



It reminds me the 4 previous recto family head that i owned immediately . Then I plug the axe and the recto and …

There is something dirty, nasty, the craziest attack on earth when you play through them, I try to have this feel back with the unit
 
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@yek
Already saw these and tried most of the know tips but I do t like these sounds in their demos . With all the experiment I think that it’s not a matter of light gain, eq cut, boost etc , but the core of the tone himself

The tone is des-troyed

When you start the choptone video you got it immediately, that signature tone. Whatever knob he turns, it still sound like a recto

Ok that’s normal that’s the original 😅

but I don’t have it with the axe . The more the sound is complex like fuzz etc the more it seems hard to simulate in modelers
 
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I may have been able to get it closer, but I had to do this one quickly since my kids need me and can't spend any more time on it at the moment.

It alternates between the Rev F and the model in real time (you'll hear the switching). I may be wrong, but I think the model is based on a Rev G, which is looser in the low end and has less midrange attack than the Rev F. The settings on the amp and the model are pretty different, so it's not a knob for knob comparison. For instance, the Amp's Mids are set at 5 and the model is at 7.3, but I think the end result is close enough to save you $3k.

I also had to bring down the model's supply sag a bit, but I think that was the only advanced parameter I touched. I used the Fractal LB-2 for the load box and matched it with the LB-2 UK curve in the Axe-Fx III.

I hope it helps!


 
I have owned a couple of Rectifiers. I could never get a great tone to my ears with them until…I used the Mesa 5 band…you can do this with the Axe. Pure Heaven IMO.
 
York Audio said:
I may have been able to get it closer, but I had to do this one quickly since my kids need me and can't spend any more time on it at the moment.

It alternates between the Rev F and the model in real time (you'll hear the switching). I may be wrong, but I think the model is based on a Rev G, which is looser in the low end and has less midrange attack than the Rev F. The settings on the amp and the model are pretty different, so it's not a knob for knob comparison. For instance, the Amp's Mids are set at 5 and the model is at 7.3, but I think the end result is close enough to save you $3k.

I also had to bring down the model's supply sag a bit, but I think that was the only advanced parameter I touched. I used the Fractal LB-2 for the load box and matched it with the LB-2 UK curve in the Axe-Fx III.

I hope it helps!


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thats pretty darn close , what was the Ir used ,is that the Mesa OS one of the mixes ?
 
Nice! I use RectoRed 1 and have a Trem-O-Verb. I haven't done an A/B, but the model has always sounded and felt like it should to me.
 
York Audio said:
I may have been able to get it closer, but I had to do this one quickly since my kids need me and can't spend any more time on it at the moment.

It alternates between the Rev F and the model in real time (you'll hear the switching). I may be wrong, but I think the model is based on a Rev G, which is looser in the low end and has less midrange attack than the Rev F. The settings on the amp and the model are pretty different, so it's not a knob for knob comparison. For instance, the Amp's Mids are set at 5 and the model is at 7.3, but I think the end result is close enough to save you $3k.

I also had to bring down the model's supply sag a bit, but I think that was the only advanced parameter I touched. I used the Fractal LB-2 for the load box and matched it with the LB-2 UK curve in the Axe-Fx III.

I hope it helps!


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Thanks !

The attack is what differ the most : it’s compressed in the axe.
the « choptones video » sound more like I remember the amp : More high, more attack, bees etc

I think that, even using the real head with a loadbox in the axe compress the real thing too

In the chop tone video they mic it

The cool think is that I wasn’t dreaming. The recto sims are not there yet. The bad think is that is not the moment to buy myself another head 😅

If you listen to your sample and This video just after, it is day and night . And the tone I’m looking for is this one :



Thanks again for your time !
Let see if Cliff can do something one day
even if I read that he dislike the amp 😔
 
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I used to have multi-watt dual recto, loved it, the results in the videos sound very similar to the difference I heard back then. AxeFx models sounded a tad weaker, compressed and brittle played through the same cab. I remember using PEQ to compensate and got close. I can't remember exactly what I did because I eventually sold it, and after getting my axe fx, I tend to find decent tones using other models and hardly turn to dual recto sound anymore.
 
@My name is mud I gave it another try. This time with my Tremoverb (Rev G). I have a feeling the model was made using the Tube Rectifier setting on the back. Once I flipped that switch on my ToV, the response was a lot closer. I think Cliff's reference amp is a particularly scooped Dual Rec. I had to boost quite a lot of midrange frequencies in the amp block's GEQ page to get it close. I'm sure I could still get it closer, but this is pretty close to my ears.

Every section/progression is played twice. The first one is the Tremoverb and the second is the Recto 1 Red model.



This time, amp settings were pretty similar for the amp and the model except for the GEQ page and raising the preamp's high frequency cut up to 11.7k. Here are the GEQ settings if it's helpful:
Type: 7-Band Const Q
100: -1.00
200: 0.25
400: 1.65
800: 2.80
1600: 2.00
3200: 0.60
6400: 0.20

Edit: The video you referenced used a Creamback speaker, so I used an M65 Creamback IR for this one. It's not the same model and mine is in a 2x12 cabinet, but it should be a little closer than the Mesa 4x12 I used in the first clip. This clip wasn't trying to get the video's tone (I think their cabinet may have been mic'ed up in a closet since it's got a TON of low-mid buildup likely due to reflections), so it's not apples to apples... just seeing if the Recto 1 Red model could get close to a real 2-Channel Rev G head.
 
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yek said:
IIRC Cliff has several Rectifiers, like 3 or so.

Personally I don't like the more loose Rectifier sound at all.
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I'm with you. A Dual Rec needs to be set to Silicon Diodes and Bold Power to do the thing it's most known for. I've got three Rectifiers as well, and always need to boost Mids with the model to get it in the ballpark of the real amps. I sent Cliff a message offering to let him borrow some amps if he ever wants them.
 
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