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Wish Request: Global adjustable Fletcher-Munson Curve

Discussion in 'Axe-Fx III Wish List' started by King’s X - Jason, Feb 21, 2019.

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  1. #41 chris, Feb 21, 2019
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    And what isn’t true, still isn’t true.
     
  2. #42 King’s X - Jason, Feb 21, 2019
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    The user does. And that’s why it’s variable.
     
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    This has been done on consumer audio electronics devices that play back pre-recorded music. Meant for home use in a room of an approximate same size. That absolutely matters compared to live audio.
     
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    I give up. What is the "Boss load box FX thingy?"
     
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    This whole thing can be easily solved. Anyone simply needs to plug their Axe into a device that has this loudness button and press it. Does it work? Does it not work? Chances are it will not work the same way as pre-recorded music in a room in a house.
     
  6. #46 shatteredsquare, Feb 21, 2019
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    Their preemptive strike on the LB-1...

     
  7. #47 paulasbell, Feb 21, 2019
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    I can't. Because I know where my expertise lies, and where it doesn't. And my expertise doesn't lie in electronic design.

    Something tells me that yours doesn't either. Yet, you seem to put your insight on par with someone who clearly knows thousands of times more on the topic of electronic design than you do.

    Dunning-Kruger.
     
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  8. #48 FractalAudio, Feb 21, 2019
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    The "Loudness" controls in old Hi-Fi gear was nothing more than a bass/treble boost. It's a gimmick. It was supposed to compensate for the reduced sensitivity of human hearing at lower volumes. It's not accurate, never was and can never be. There are a myriad of reasons why, the most glaring is that you have no way of knowing what the SPL is (without a meter). Since equal loudness contours are dependent on SPL you can't compensate if you don't know the SPL.

    The Axe-Fx has no idea of the sensitivity of the amplifier and speakers connected. Therefore it can't possibly know what the SPL is and concomitantly can't know how to compensate.

    Here's an article on what's wrong with "Loudness" controls:
    https://www.avhub.com.au/features/hi-fi/loudness-controls---why-theyre-just-wrong-473551
     
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    "Global Fletcher Munson curve" = global output EQ adjusted to taste...boost lows and highs, whooptie doo, fat quiet tone...
     
  11. #51 King’s X - Jason, Feb 21, 2019
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    I give up. You guys can be content with whatever. My notion that FAS can offer an adjustable loudness curve like some hardware I owned is misplaced. Whatever.
     
  12. #52 King’s X - Jason, Feb 21, 2019
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    That you agree that audio isn’t your field, like he said in what you quoted?
     
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    Maybe stating the obvious, but anyone interested in loudness curves can easily import one into the Axe as an IR, yes ? Not continuously variable, but with a little experimenting probably not hard to find something useful for quiet home use...
     
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    Or use the Global EQ. Or an EQ block...
     
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