Red Sound Elis8 FRFR Review and MF 10 Comparision

walnutzz said:
Cost. The passive is a couple hundred bucks cheaper than the active, so it’s a better value to pair one of each.
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Greg Ferguson said:
I don’t think you would see any advantage with two powered MF10 or ELIS.8 cabs. They use a stereo power-amp, where one side powers the active cabinet, and the other powers the passive cabinet. Buying two powered cabs would mean two of the channels were not being used.
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blaggers said:
Having two active cabs would double the chance of you plugging into the LH channel input and wondering why there’s no sound coming out - don’t ask me how I know this is an issue 🤨
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That’s about what I figured. Thanks, y’all.
 
austinbuddy said:
I didn’t detect that issue, although I was aware of it as a possibility.

And I moved my speakers around until they sounded great. My first speaker placement honestly sounded a bit phasey, but I moved them and it is also a trick to get the volumes to balance just perfect between the two so one does not dominate the other.

But it is worth noting - as you did- that phase can be an issue with this mix and match different CLRs approach. Mine is the MF10 RedSound not the Elis8, that may account for something.
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Hi Austinbuddy. Can you use just one MF10 in mono? Is it loud enough for a small club gig? If so, what tweaks/adjustments are necessary? I plan on buying one to use with my FM9 for small venues. Thanks.
 
curious said:
Hi Austinbuddy. Can you use just one MF10 in mono? Is it loud enough for a small club gig? If so, what tweaks/adjustments are necessary? I plan on buying one to use with my FM9 for small venues. Thanks.
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Yes and yes! It is LAF (lite as f**). Just use a PEQ Global out to fine tune it to your wars (cut lows/highs) if you think you need it. I have been playing Van Halen presets with it lately and it sounds great without me messing with the Global EQ at all.
 
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austinbuddy said:
Yes and yes! It is LAF. Just use a PEQ Global out to fine tune it to your wars (cut lows/highs) if you think you need it. I have been playing Van Halen presets with it lately and it sounds great without me messing with the Global EQ at all.
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You sir are the man! Thanks.
 
austinbuddy said:
Yes and yes! It is LAF. Just use a PEQ Global out to fine tune it to your wars (cut lows/highs) if you think you need it. I have been playing Van Halen presets with it lately and it sounds great without me messing with the Global EQ at all.
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One more question. I have plugged both left and right output 1 into left and right inputs of mf10 and set output 1 on fm9 to sum L+R. Does that work or should I just go mono with one cable from left output 1 of fm9 to left input of mf10?
 
curious said:
One more question. I have plugged both left and right output 1 into left and right inputs of mf10 and set output 1 on fm9 to sum L+R. Does that work or should I just go mono with one cable from left output 1 of fm9 to left input of mf10?
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You should be able to set Copy L>R and just use one XLR cable. Some stereo effects will not work properly however. Also I use I/O Audio at + 4db and my FM3 out knob is maxxed.

It gets LOUD.
 
curious said:
One more question. I have plugged both left and right output 1 into left and right inputs of mf10 and set output 1 on fm9 to sum L+R. Does that work or should I just go mono with one cable from left output 1 of fm9 to left input of mf10?
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L and R inputs drive the internal amp L and R channels., but only the R amp channel is connected to the internal speaker - the L amp channel output gets sent to the Power Out L Speakon connector so you wont hear it if you only have one unit.
 
blaggers said:
L and R inputs drive the internal amp L and R channels., but only the R amp channel is connected to the internal speaker - the L amp channel output gets sent to the Power Out L Speakon connector so you wont hear it if you only have one unit.
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Thanks!
 
I have the Eli’s.8 and use 1 xlr. For some reason it’s the right input which wasn’t obvious in the manual. Yours probably the same. If I’m wrong, just switch to left.
 
curious said:
So are you saying I need to plug into the L output on the fm9 to the R input on the mf10 to make it work if I’m using only one cable?
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If youve set the output to mono (either Copy L-> R or Sum L+R) you can use either L or R output from Fm9 into the R input on the Redsound.

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https://wiki.fractalaudio.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mono_and_stereo

Mono output​

For a mono output signal:

  • sum the signal on the grid to mono, or
  • set Output Mode in the I/O menu to one of the mono settings: "Sum L+R" or "Copy L > R", or
  • connect only the left or right output to the amplification system or mixer, or
  • set the audio system to mono.
 
Happy to report that first gig with FM9 AND MF10 went really well. I can’t believe how loud that little sucker is. Had no trouble cutting through. I boosted the mids a bit in the global eq for output 1 and that worked well. I have some tweaking and leveling to do but got through the gig and had a blast. Band mates were blown away by the sound coming out of the MF10. My only concern was that I realized that I need a global boost and or volume pedal in each preset. I used the live layout recommended by Cooper and it works well but I need to figure out how to have a boost handy without having to do too much tap dancing. This may be the subject of another thread but how do you guys handle that?
 
I use PEQ +2db level with a 2db mid boost and assign bypass to Control switch 1 ( so I can add Amp boost switch to same switch if needed) add after cab block. Sometimes I put it parallel to reverb to boost main signal but not reverb.
 
I'll probably get a single Elis.8 in the next weeks. I hope it will be loud enough to compete with my drummer (very hard metal hitter).

Of course there's still the option to get the second one, but I rather prefer to have a light single cab setup.
 
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