Gnarls Bombski
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Axe fx ultra ftw! Im not gunna bother with this new unit. Totally happy with my ultra, and not at all bummed that I " didnt wait "...
its funny, when i bought mine a few months ago, spending hours on research..... then taking the jump, spending thousands an giving up my tube gear... sending and receiving emails about the unit from both fractal and g66..... no one ever told me it was near capacity! in fact i was told that it would be totally updatable through firmware. if they now turn around and say that all new updates will only run on the new units...... that is incredibly bad business!!!!!!!! if they think for one minute that guitarists are gonna play the technology game they can whistle! it was a massive jump to give up my tube amps.... if i would have kept them they would have never needed updating! i knew the axe would, but was led to believe that this product would accommodate that, so if the new unit means my tube sounds wont keep getting better as promised!!! that will be the end of this digital thing for me. not very happy... an id just like to point out..... my axe ultra is not five years old.... it is three months old!
This makes me sick, too. No patch compatbility with the Axe II as well.its funny, when i bought mine a few months ago, spending hours on research..... then taking the jump, spending thousands an giving up my tube gear... sending and receiving emails about the unit from both fractal and g66..... no one ever told me it was near capacity! in fact i was told that it would be totally updatable through firmware. if they now turn around and say that all new updates will only run on the new units...... that is incredibly bad business!!!!!!!! if they think for one minute that guitarists are gonna play the technology game they can whistle! it was a massive jump to give up my tube amps.... if i would have kept them they would have never needed updating! i knew the axe would, but was led to believe that this product would accommodate that, so if the new unit means my tube sounds wont keep getting better as promised!!! that will be the end of this digital thing for me. not very happy... an id just like to point out..... my axe ultra is not five years old.... it is three months old!
its funny, when i bought mine a few months ago, spending hours on research..... then taking the jump, spending thousands an giving up my tube gear... sending and receiving emails about the unit from both fractal and g66..... no one ever told me it was near capacity! in fact i was told that it would be totally updatable through firmware. if they now turn around and say that all new updates will only run on the new units...... that is incredibly bad business!!!!!!!! if they think for one minute that guitarists are gonna play the technology game they can whistle! it was a massive jump to give up my tube amps.... if i would have kept them they would have never needed updating! i knew the axe would, but was led to believe that this product would accommodate that, so if the new unit means my tube sounds wont keep getting better as promised!!! that will be the end of this digital thing for me. not very happy... an id just like to point out..... my axe ultra is not five years old.... it is three months old!
the "mature" Axe FX/Ultra is a real bummer.
http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fas-axe-fx-ii-2.htmlWhereas the Axe-Fx Standard and Ultra are …almost… mature in terms of their capacity for further development...
Whereas the Axe-Fx Standard and Ultra are …almost… mature in terms of their capacity for further development, the Axe-Fx II is well equipped for a future of free upgrades and updates in the tradition that established our commitment to product evolution.
In my case I fully expect new hardware to be released & I have no problem with it at all, I just don't think it's right that the soft content (i.e. modelling algorithms) should be exclusive to the new top of the line hardware given how expensive these pieces of kit are in the first place. I personally don't expect anything for free either, I'd be completely happy to purchase an upgrade for my Ultra that allows me to use the new G2 modelling content, it's inevitable that technology will depreciate & you expect to have to purchase upgrades every now & then in order to keep it current. It does sadly look as though the Ultra will probably be freezed at it currently stands now though. If Firmware 11 only contains a much needed poweramp tweak, then that suggests to me that no further content for it will follow. ....who knows though, Cliff may surprise us yet with that! Also, there's no cost effective option like there used to be with the Standard anymore, so maybe there'll be some sort of trade-in scheme so that they can sell used Ultras from the factory as their new cost-effective option.What were all the guys whining now thinking? Standard and Ultra would reign until 2020 - with free updates?
My Ultra is great and I most certainly will check out the Axe-Fx II and then probably sell my Ultra, or not..
I will lose money - OK. But if the Ultra fulfilled your needs yesterday, it will still do that in years to come.
Back to some guitar playing...
What were all the guys whining now thinking? Standard and Ultra would reign until 2020 - with free updates?
My Ultra is great and I most certainly will check out the Axe-Fx II and then probably sell my Ultra, or not..
I will lose money - OK. But if the Ultra fulfilled your needs yesterday, it will still do that in years to come.
Back to some guitar playing...
In my case I fully expect new hardware to be released & I have no problem with it at all, I just don't think it's right that the soft content (i.e. modelling algorithms) should be exclusive to the new top of the line hardware given how expensive these pieces of kit are in the first place. I personally don't expect anything for free either, I'd be completely happy to purchase an upgrade for my Ultra that allows me to use the new G2 modelling content, it's inevitable that technology will depreciate & you expect to have to purchase upgrades every now & then in order to keep it current. It does sadly look as though the Ultra will probably be freezed at it currently stands now though. If Firmware 11 only contains a much needed poweramp tweak, then that suggests to me that no further content for it will follow. ....who knows though, Cliff may surprise us yet with that! Also, there's no cost effective option like there used to be with the Standard anymore, so maybe there'll be some sort of trade-in scheme so that they can sell used Ultras from the factory as their new cost-effective option.
Again, I'm really happy for Fractal with the release of the Axe II & I'm glad they've done it, I'm just worried (with sayings like 'now it's history' showing on official marketing) that our perfectly good shiny new Ultras that should have plenty of years of life in them are simply going to be dropped & left to stagnate.
So who bought the couple of units that the power users sold for full retail price in the last few weeks? They are the ones with a right to complain because they were taken advantage of by preferred users who knew their Axes would be depreciating immediately after sale.