Yes, mic the amp and connect the mic preamp output to Input 2 Left.
You can use a TMA block in lieu of a cab block.
Q: Do you not have to be constantly playing when you start the tone-match block to get it really accurate? Obviously it nailed exactly in your video but I've heard when capturing hi-gain rigs on the DUT you have be constantly playing to really refine and capture the low frequencies.
Q: When I run the cable out of the Axe-fx II into the input of the DUT do I need to adjust the input settings on the DUT or do I leave it at default.
Yes, mic the amp and connect the mic preamp output to Input 2 Left.
Cliff or others? - 2 more questions I want to get this "right"
1. Do you guys have a recommendation to minimize mic coloration to most closely approximate the cab? (SM-57, Condenser, Fathead etc)
2. If I use the existing Board that contains the mics (In my case studio live 16.4.2) I assume I just take the direct out of the channel?
Thanks and sorry if this is obvious.
1) to minimize coloration of the microphone, something like the Earthworks M30 or TC30, which has a very flat frequency response, would be preferable. Then later, if you convert your Tone Match into an IR, you can use this custom IR with the selection of stock Mics provided in the CAB Block to further alter/color the sound, as well as the other CAB block parameters.
Earthworks M30 30kHz Measurement Mic
Earthworks TC30 Omni for Loud Sources
2) yup
You shouldn't treat this like trying to "most closely approximate the cab" since that is impossible using near-field micing. You should treat it like you are micing a cab in a studio. Select a good mic and find a good position.
IMHO, if the amp you are matching already exists in the Axe-Fx, then you should just capture the cabinet IR. This way you get much more flexibility since you can then use that cab with other amps and share it. Use the IR capture utility. It's fast, easy and works great. I'll do a video on it, maybe today.
Tone Matching is great when you can't separate the amp from the cab (i.e. the KPA thingy) or the amp being matched doesn't exist in the Axe-Fx. Otherwise obtaining an IR is the superior solution.
The thing that gets me is through studio monittors and recorded tracks the tone matches sound just like what i matched. However through other frfr monitors it sounds off. I use a mackie 1521 and behringer 12" powered monitors. I know they are not the best and I loved the Mackie 1221, but three of them would start hitting the thermal limiter and not ever stop. I then get the mackie 1521 dont like it much. Thats besides the point am I doing something incorectly? I have it setup correct I know for sure. I been trying to match All Shall Perish Royalty Into Exile there is a small 10-15 second part before the verse starts thats doing a fast triplet riff. I get it close and its sounds close, however I cant find what I am missing. I did one of that same riff right when Cliff released the tone matching feature, but then when the update came I updated my firmware and it threw it all off and I havent got it right since.
Any suggestions. I read they recorded it first through either a daw program or Axe-Fx, but then sent the DI tracks to a studio to be re-amped the chain consisted of Maxon 808 Block letter 5150 and a over sized mesa cab. I then used a chart I found of producer and players settings for 5150 and averaged them from there
Gain 4 Bass 10 mids 3.5 treble 5.5 presence 6 depth 10
TS808 Drive-0 Tone-7 Mix 100% level 7.5 Low cut 799 hi cut 2200 4558 chip
no cab