Sean, Thanks for the input, In the patch that I'm working with, I have fas modern for amp x, and 65 baseman for y, when in the recall mode I have the patch # showing and patch name, I don't see how I can assign x or y to the tone block from the recall screen. As the manual suggest, I push the control button and page to the manual screen, I see the quick control knobs but all it says is a, b, c, d, and I can turn the knob, the screen counter part responds, but doesn't show that it's assigned to anything or any value is displayed. I must be missing a step.