The_Kid
Experienced
Ok, first let me clarify I know the difference between the FRFR and mic'd cabs as in full range vs 'mid range' of real cabs/mic'd (in general).
I have been running direct for the past 7 months with my Ultra and have loved/hated it. Loved the ease of use, hated the somewhat additional tweaking to remove extra frequencies I dont 'need'.
The past few weeks I have been enjoying my buddies Crown amp and running through my old cabs. An Avatar 2x12 with Celestion 12T-75's and a Genz Benz G-flex with Eminence Wizards. Stacked or spread apart they sound nice together and very easy for me to dial in amps for a one off reunion show the past weekend. Much easier I thought than going through a small mixer/headphone setup to get close only to be blown away and dial things back/up because of the sound guys PA setup.
Anyway, I was thinking on my way home from work, about retooling my presets for my main band as I have been running direct and try them with cabs. We play with IEM's so really cabs are not necessary. The douche bag sound guy we have makes me think they are necessary because I get a shit mix and can never hear my guitar over the backing tracks we have hence me not able to hear myself at all. My thought was well I'll run some cabs on stage and just pull one of my IEM's out to balance the sound.
Got me thinking about the cab sims in the axe. Now, as i noted before my thoughts are that FRFR is full response, guitar cabs are more 'mid range' oriented for guitars. GENERALLY SPEAKING....right?
Assuming that thought is correct, do the cab sims in the Ultra, match that as well? If I take a Marsha HBE and run it through my Avatar 2x12, and compare it to headphones using a somewhat comparable cab sim, should they sound similar? Now, I do understand some minor tweaking will have to be done on the cab side, because my cab is not directly available in the Ultra. my question is more do the cab sims appropriately match the frequency cutoff of the cabs the represent? Or are they mearly EQ boost/cuts to help represent the cabs they are named for.
Secondly, I basically understand IR's. Impulse Responses....a high tech imaging of a cab/mic/speaker setup much more fine tuned than your basic cab sim. If I went with an IR vs Ultra cab sim...would that give me a better 'realistic' response to my 2x12's with less tweaking involved?
I hope i'm making sense here...I'm trying to logically follow questions that havent been answered yet on my own logical thought path that could have gone off on unintelligent tangents not meant to be.
Anyone make sense of this ramble?
I have been running direct for the past 7 months with my Ultra and have loved/hated it. Loved the ease of use, hated the somewhat additional tweaking to remove extra frequencies I dont 'need'.
The past few weeks I have been enjoying my buddies Crown amp and running through my old cabs. An Avatar 2x12 with Celestion 12T-75's and a Genz Benz G-flex with Eminence Wizards. Stacked or spread apart they sound nice together and very easy for me to dial in amps for a one off reunion show the past weekend. Much easier I thought than going through a small mixer/headphone setup to get close only to be blown away and dial things back/up because of the sound guys PA setup.
Anyway, I was thinking on my way home from work, about retooling my presets for my main band as I have been running direct and try them with cabs. We play with IEM's so really cabs are not necessary. The douche bag sound guy we have makes me think they are necessary because I get a shit mix and can never hear my guitar over the backing tracks we have hence me not able to hear myself at all. My thought was well I'll run some cabs on stage and just pull one of my IEM's out to balance the sound.
Got me thinking about the cab sims in the axe. Now, as i noted before my thoughts are that FRFR is full response, guitar cabs are more 'mid range' oriented for guitars. GENERALLY SPEAKING....right?
Assuming that thought is correct, do the cab sims in the Ultra, match that as well? If I take a Marsha HBE and run it through my Avatar 2x12, and compare it to headphones using a somewhat comparable cab sim, should they sound similar? Now, I do understand some minor tweaking will have to be done on the cab side, because my cab is not directly available in the Ultra. my question is more do the cab sims appropriately match the frequency cutoff of the cabs the represent? Or are they mearly EQ boost/cuts to help represent the cabs they are named for.
Secondly, I basically understand IR's. Impulse Responses....a high tech imaging of a cab/mic/speaker setup much more fine tuned than your basic cab sim. If I went with an IR vs Ultra cab sim...would that give me a better 'realistic' response to my 2x12's with less tweaking involved?
I hope i'm making sense here...I'm trying to logically follow questions that havent been answered yet on my own logical thought path that could have gone off on unintelligent tangents not meant to be.
Anyone make sense of this ramble?