Does anyone have presets that they use on here for specific songs or general gigging patches that are set up to be used loud with an Atomic CLR ie FRFR setup. I can get clean patches sounding good but any patch set up for a rock amp is coming out too trebly and sharp - appreciate can use GEQ to take some high end off but the speaker shouldnt make these patches sound so thin and spikey.
If anyone has some pacthes they know works for them would be very useful to try together with details of how CLR and Axe is set up so can replicate.
Ive gone back to using my Satch JVM into a 2x12 as the sound on the Atomic/Axe combination just isnt cutting it and using the valve amp its hard, immediate, meaty sound which is what the CLR/Axe combination wasnt
Thanks - Lee
Hi, this is a repost from Great Green. You just add THIS filter block on another row from the amp by passing the cab, then back into the original row. I really like the way it works with my presets for a cab in the room sound.
The problem with getting room filing sound with Axe-Fx FRFR rigs is that most guys seem to just dial up an Amp block and Cab block onto the grid and go from there. This will no doubt make for a great mix-ready sound, but the problem with this is that most Cab IRs tend to cut out all the sub bass, which guitar cabs do produce lots of, so naturally you're going to have a significant differential between a Cab IR and a cab. Why this happens I'm not sure. Maybe because guitar speakers (the things most often mic'd when capturing IRs) don't actually produce all that much bass and instead the room shaking bass comes from the resonance of the top, bottom, side, and back walls of the cab, which act as their own low frequency "speakers" reacting from the vibrations of the "actual" speakers mounted in front. I'm not really sure. All I know is that cabs tend to have all this low frequency complexity going on while cab IRs just... kind of don't.
So how do we get around this?
It's actually pretty simple, really. We add back the bass. You can't add it with EQ after the cab IR though because it has already cut out most of the low bass from the signal completely. Instead,
start by finding your Amp and Cab blocks and placing a Filter block on the grid in parallel with your Cab block. Then, route your Amp block straight to the Filter block, bypassing the Cab block.
From here, change the Filter Type to "Lowpass," change Order parameter to "4th" for a sharper frequency cutoff, and set the Frequency value to somewhere between 110 and 120 hz or to taste. From here, route your Filter block back into the chain after your Cab block and set the Filter block's volume using the Level parameter (not the Gain parameter), and adjust the level until you've added enough low end back into your signal.
That's it, you're done! Your previously mix-ready tone is now a room filling monster that can give you all the amp in the room, pants shaking sound and feelings you can stand. And whether or not this sounds
literally exactly like your favorite real life amp and cab in the room, I can guarantee you it is every bit as fun to play.
Personally, I've found my favorite patches setup this way and played through the CLRs definitely sound and feel way better "in the room" to me than my actual amps sound and feel in the room. It's kind of unreal.
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Originally Posted by
H3O2
H3O2 got it exactly right a few posts down. This is all there is to it!