Part II: Smilefan's Axe II Patch Thread

Smilefan - thanks. I'm playing around with both Campbell patches you posted. I like the one you took down with the Fulltone drive as well - why did you pull that one? It actually seems to have a lot more life to it.

Thanks again for the patches! You are such a great resource - really appreciate the help and insight (and stories).

The one with the Fulltone drive has more gain, but isn't as accurate sounding as the one with two compressors and the FET drive. If you listen to Mike's recorded tones, they are pretty thin.
 
First, let me just say thank you so much for all your work! I've learned a ton about how to create patches from seeing how you construct things. I wanted to know if you could try and tackle Daniel Lanois' beautiful fuzz tone. I know he uses some type of preamp into an ac30 with a kay fuzz. Here's a pretty good example:

Daniel Lanois - Orange Kay - YouTube

Thanks!
 
The one with the Fulltone drive has more gain, but isn't as accurate sounding as the one with two compressors and the FET drive. If you listen to Mike's recorded tones, they are pretty thin.
You're very right. I played along with the track with a Tele and your patch is right there with it. I'm learning, so hope you don't mind the questions.

I was studying the patch and noticed some things - maybe you can comment:
- The cab sizes are dropped a bit - is that to EQ the sound or focusing the tone or something else?
- What do the 2 compressors do for the tone that a single one doesn't? Is that based on a Mike Campbell configuration?
- EQ adjustments in the amp block such as -0.03, 0.08: are you hearing those differences?

Don't take these the wrong way - just curious as I'd like to learn.
 
I was studying the patch and noticed some things - maybe you can comment:
- The cab sizes are dropped a bit - is that to EQ the sound or focusing the tone or something else?
- What do the 2 compressors do for the tone that a single one doesn't? Is that based on a Mike Campbell configuration?
- EQ adjustments in the amp block such as -0.03, 0.08: are you hearing those differences?

A. I drop the cab size when I want to focus a tone, and bring in more treble response.
B. Compressors do more than just stretch a signal's response time. I configured one of those two
as a transparent gain boost, along the lines of a ZVex SHO pedal. This lets me gain up the signal
without adding much audible distortion, as you would get from a Drive block.
C. Yes, I absolutely hear the differences in fine adjustments of the EQ section in the Amp blocks.
I listen intently to these when I make patches, especially the highest five bands.
 
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Forum members toasterdude and theblogjammers wanted steel drums.
Here is my crack at it.

In broad strokes you simulate steel drums sounds with a detuned, octave up
Pitch Block into a wide Chorus (around 40ms delay), with all the modulation dialed out.

Play single notes without bends, up around the 12th fret. If you have a Les Paul,
try the middle position with the neck tone rolled off. See what you think.


I will have to carve out some time to try this!!! Thanks. I was just about to order a EHX Poly Chorus to get that filter matrix mode. Would rather do it "in the box". Thanks again!
 
Hey there - new around here, and to Axe world. This looks like a good place to start.
Gonna be checking back, frequently.

Thanks for all the hard work, man!
 
I too have just come across this thread--Axe fx2 for about 3 weeks
Smilefan YOU ROCK!!
Love Tasty Brown--- modded a bit and its on my goto patches for warm lead sound
--what about a billy gibbons zz top preset--I know you'd do a a lot better than me!!
 
Thanks, Smilefan! I knew a kay fuzz/lanois type patch would be a bit difficult, but the patch sounds great. And maybe it'll help spur some more fuzz models down the line! (fingers crossed).
 
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Guitar legend, Ritchie Blackmore


Today we’re taking a look at the legendary guitarist, Ritchie Blackmore.
Founding member of the seminal hard rock band, Deep Purple, and band
leader of his own hard rock creation, Rainbow. He is one of the most
interesting and historically significant guitarists of all time. He was the first
rock guitarist to employ openly classical influences in his playing, and is
credited as a founding father of Metal guitar styles.

As a young player he was given lessons by the famous Big Jim Sullivan, who was
the most prolific British session guitarist of the 60’s. Becoming fast friends with
Big Jim, it was Ritchie, Big Jim Sullivan and Pete Townsend who originally convinced
Jim Marshall, in his London music store, to begin making amplifiers.

Ritchie is famous for his nearly exclusive use of Fender Strats. He always screws the
middle PU down and uses only the bridge and neck coils (on the Fender “Ritchie Blackmore”
signature model, the middle coil is a dummy) . He was the first rock guitarist to have
scallops cut in the fingerboard between frets (he performed the surgery himself).

He maintained a very close relationship with Jim Marshall. Live, he used (and made legendary)
Marshall “Major” amps. These were beefed up versions of Plexi 100W heads using four
huge KT-88 power tubes. Ritchie’s Majors were custom altered by Marshall with an additional
output stage and generated 278 watts each! Nowadays he uses Engl amps.

For effects he is most famous for employing a reel-to-reel tape deck (Aiwa TP-1011)
as a preamp stage into his amps. This produced the very warm sounds you hear from
his Strats on Deep Purple records.

Interesting Blackmore facts:
Deep Purple was original conceived as a band between Ritchie and
organist Jon Lord in a Hamburg transvestite bar in 1968
(from a Guitar Player mag. interview). He and Jon wanted to
avoid the Blues (which Ritchie termed “shoeshine music”) and play
as loud and fast as they could.

He used the Strat’s vibrato bar with such force that he regularly snapped
stock units, so his repairman fashioned one of ¼” steel for him (he broke that too!).

He has said in interviews that his timeless “Smoke on the Water” riff
(possibly the most famous guitar riff of all time) is correctly played by
plucking the strings with your fingers, not downstroking with a pick.

Ritchie has a nasty reputation in the industry as a cranky bastard.
His legendary band, Rainbow, saw no less than 22 different musicians
come and go, either from being fired or being unable/unwilling to live
with Blackmore.

He has produced some memorable quotes:

Blackmore stated that, in his opinion, Hendrix was not a great player,
but everything else about him was amazing, especially the way he walked (!)

He gave up playing electric guitar from 1975-78 to pursue his interest
in cello, suddenly switching back to electric. When asked why, he replied,
“cello is so melancholy. Such an isolated, miserable instrument.”

When asked what he thought of Yngwie Malmsteen, who credits Blackmore
as his prime influence, he replied, “he’s not Paganini- though he thinks he is.
When he can play his pieces on a single string, then I’ll be impressed.”

On what he thought of Eddie Van Halen: “I think he’s going to be remembered.
He could be the next Cole Porter” (iconic 1930’s pop music composer).

On advise for young players: “The only way you can get good, unless you're a genius,
is to copy. That's the best thing. Just steal.”

In 1997 he disbanded Rainbow to pursue his interest in an acoustic band called,
Blackmore's Night, with this woman, Candice Night (now his wife). Oddly, she had
been working as a model, with no previous musical experience. Apparently, Ritchie
recognized her...…potential:

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You get two patches. His tone with Deep Purple was warm, crunchy, and rather low gain.
The “Rainbow”-era tone was more gain-y and fun. This one has a stereo pair
of Plexi 100W’s based upon the times I saw Rainbow live. He really sounded great,
with blasting Marshall Major’s on both sides of the stage. Rainbow was unspeakably
loud. Ronnie James Dio was singing when I saw them, and I was impressed beyond words
with his talent (probably the best live hard rock/metal voice ever). Enjoy!
 

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Guitar legend, Ritchie Blackmore

His tone with Deep Purple was warm, crunchy, and rather low gain.

Often in Deep Purple time he played extremely clean and the heavy sound came from Jon Lord's organ through 2 (two) Marshall's

And thanks-->he is the reason I started playing a LONG time ago

Roland
 
Thank you so much smilefan. I just recieved my II 4 days ago but had an ultra before. I have not yet loaded any presets but I can say that I have really enjoyed reading all the facts that you have regarding artists. I am hoping to absorb some of your knowledge and progress to dialing in my own tones. Thanks Again, Ill be enjoying any info thats given.
 
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Dave Ellefson of Megadeth rocking his Fender Jazz Bass

This should be a fun and practical patch. Readers of this thread from
Part I might remember a couple sims of a Fender Precision and
a Fender Jazz bass I did. The “J” bass came out very well.

Except that patch is crystal clean. When playing live, I always hear bass with
some balls and grit. So I have endeavored to top myself on this old patch.
Below is the kind of vibe I like from a rock bass, onstage. I did a bit of surgery
to the ”J” patch for a big stereo sound, with some boost and drive dialed in to
the appropriate frequencies. Hope you like it as well as the original.
 

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Guitar legend, Ritchie Blackmore


Today we’re taking a look at the legendary guitarist, Ritchie Blackmore.
Founding member of the seminal hard rock band, Deep Purple, and band
leader of his own hard rock creation, Rainbow. He is one of the most
interesting and historically significant guitarists of all time. He was the first
rock guitarist to employ openly classical influences in his playing, and is
credited as a founding father of Metal guitar styles.

As a young player he was given lessons by the famous Big Jim Sullivan, who was
the most prolific British session guitarist of the 60’s. Becoming fast friends with
Big Jim, it was Ritchie, Big Jim Sullivan and Pete Townsend who originally convinced
Jim Marshall, in his London music store, to begin making amplifiers.

Ritchie is famous for his nearly exclusive use of Fender Strats. He always screws the
middle PU down and uses only the bridge and neck coils (on the Fender “Ritchie Blackmore”
signature model, the middle coil is a dummy) . He was the first rock guitarist to have
scallops cut in the fingerboard between frets (he performed the surgery himself).

He maintained a very close relationship with Jim Marshall. Live, he used (and made legendary)
Marshall “Major” amps. These were beefed up versions of Plexi 100W heads using four
huge KT-88 power tubes. Ritchie’s Majors were custom altered by Marshall with an additional
output stage and generated 278 watts each! Nowadays he uses Engl amps.

For effects he is most famous for employing a reel-to-reel tape deck (Aiwa TP-1011)
as a preamp stage into his amps. This produced the very warm sounds you hear from
his Strats on Deep Purple records.

Interesting Blackmore facts:
Deep Purple was original conceived as a band between Ritchie and
organist Jon Lord in a Hamburg transvestite bar in 1968
(from a Guitar Player mag. interview). He and Jon wanted to
avoid the Blues (which Ritchie termed “shoeshine music”) and play
as loud and fast as they could.

He used the Strat’s vibrato bar with such force that he regularly snapped
stock units, so his repairman fashioned one of ¼” steel for him (he broke that too!).

He has said in interviews that his timeless “Smoke on the Water” riff
(possibly the most famous guitar riff of all time) is correctly played by
plucking the strings with your fingers, not downstroking with a pick.

Ritchie has a nasty reputation in the industry as a cranky bastard.
His legendary band, Rainbow, saw no less than 22 different musicians
come and go, either from being fired or being unable/unwilling to live
with Blackmore.

He has produced some memorable quotes:

Blackmore stated that, in his opinion, Hendrix was not a great player,
but everything else about him was amazing, especially the way he walked (!)

He gave up playing electric guitar from 1975-78 to pursue his interest
in cello, suddenly switching back to electric. When asked why, he replied,
“cello is so melancholy. Such an isolated, miserable instrument.”

When asked what he thought of Yngwie Malmsteen, who credits Blackmore
as his prime influence, he replied, “he’s not Paganini- though he thinks he is.
When he can play his pieces on a single string, then I’ll be impressed.”

On what he thought of Eddie Van Halen: “I think he’s going to be remembered.
He could be the next Cole Porter” (iconic 1930’s pop music composer).

On advise for young players: “The only way you can get good, unless you're a genius,
is to copy. That's the best thing. Just steal.”

In 1997 he disbanded Rainbow to pursue his interest in an acoustic band called,
Blackmore's Night, with this woman, Candice Night (now his wife). Oddly, she had
been working as a model, with no previous musical experience. Apparently, Ritchie
recognized her...…potential:

91o3jg0bssdnb0s3.jpg


You get two patches. His tone with Deep Purple was warm, crunchy, and rather low gain.
The “Rainbow”-era tone was more gain-y and fun. This one has a stereo pair
of Plexi 100W’s based upon the times I saw Rainbow live. He really sounded great,
with blasting Marshall Major’s on both sides of the stage. Rainbow was unspeakably
loud. Ronnie James Dio was singing when I saw them, and I was impressed beyond words
with his talent (probably the best live hard rock/metal voice ever). Enjoy!

Saw Deep Purple with Coverdale and Blackmore and later
saw Rainbow in Chicago with Dio singing lead vocals.
They were awesome.
Thanks for the patches.

Deep Purple was my favorite band growing up.
 
Thanks so much again Smilefan. Im not requesting a patch, but I could use a little guidance on getting the Isley Brothers "who's that lady" lead tone.
Im getting close with the benderfuzz in to a vibratoverb, but I can seem to nail that squishy, slushy phasing that is happening with my phasers/flangers. Any tips are greatly appreciated.
Thanks for sharing so much info. I know more ever patch I download and check out.
 
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That is a great idea. Ernie used a Univox "Superfuzz" (above) for that. As I noted in the "Orange Kay" fuzz patch, our fuzz emulations still need work. They don't sound 'real' to me. But I love that tone he gets. I'll take a crack.

In the meantime, I have been working on the Orange Kay patch, to get it to sound more real world.
I think this is alot better than the first patch attempt:
I will play with it when i get home tonight. Thanks for sharing.
 
I could use a little guidance on getting the Isley Brothers "who's that lady" lead tone.

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Forum member, Funeral, had a great idea while we are on the
subject of “Fuzz” (he didn’t request a patch, but he’s getting one
anyway ;) ). Ernie Isley’s sweet, intense, high octave flavored fuzz
tone on The Isley Brother’s, “Who’s That Lady?”. If you don’t know
the song:

The Isley Brothers-Who's That lady - YouTube

The story is such an interesting one, that it begs to be told, as
it directly involves one James Marshall Hendrix. The Isley Brothers
were a famous recording act while young Ernie was just a boy.
They hired as their touring guitarist a young hot-rod named Jimi Hendrix.
Jimi took Ernie under his wing and told him, “you need to learn to play,
one day you’ll be playing with your brothers.” Jimi bought him his first
guitar, and gave him lessons.

Young Ernie idolized Jimi (this was a few years prior to Jimi’s fateful trip to London).
Years later, as Ernie took his place with his brothers, Jimi sent his world famous guitar
tech and effects guru, Roger Mayer, to set him up. Roger was the inventor
of both the Fuzz Face and Octavia fuzz pedals. He brought him a Strat and an
Octavia set up just like Jimi’s. That’s what you hear on the Isley’s recording
of “Who’s That Lady”, per many experts.

He also used an old Maestro Phaser, which had a really strong, intense sound. We don’t
have anything like it in the Axe, so I used two 8-stage Phasers with EQ’ing,
to emulate it. In his live shows, Ernie is reported to have used many different fuzzes.
He never used the Octavia live, as they were fragile, and their Germanium
transistors were highly sensitive to temperature - they never gave you the same sound
twice. Often he used a Univox Super Fuzz. A very intense, dense, mid-rangy
fuzz, with octave-up overtones.

The recording is too intense to be just an Octavia. I’ve used them and they don’t
sound that rich without another fuzz in front. So I used a Fuzz Face (which my ears
suspect, he used on the original recording, as well). The patch is a bit of a compromise
between his live tone and the studio tone. The studio tone, by itself, is so “pinched”,
I doubt many would want to play that sound exactly as is. So the patch is a little
fuller than the record in its EQ, more as his live tone was. Again, like the “Orange Kay”
patch, no amp or cab sims. I think our fuzz sims, as they are now, sound the most
accurate this way. Enjoy.

Use your guitar’s neck or middle position with the neck PU tone rolled off!
 

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Thank you so much Smilefan. You are a treasure to this community...And you posted it on my birthday, wow. The universe is singing to me right now. :)
 
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