Guitbasstarrist
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Hi
Long story short:
I bought a RCF Art 712-A MK IV active monitor to amplify my Axe FX II+. I'm irritated because this setup sounds so "hifi". Lots, lots, massive lots of boomy bass low end and crisp sparkling hights. To make it sound remotly like a guitar I must compensate it with quite extreme eq adjustments. Is that a typical experience a newbie to modeling amp technique must go through?
Short story long:
Background:
I've rather been a bassist than a guitarist for the last decades. Ok. Let's be honest. I'm not a guitarist at all. I only happen to own one and despite knowing better, my band mates currently insist on me using it at them. I don't own a guitar amplifier/cab yet and have used the "oddments" of our other guitarrist during the last year. These "oddments" consist of a 4x12" Marshall cabinet and various amps by Orange, Engel, Marshall - quality gear not to be sneezed at. I never really dug into the quest for the perfect sound because any other practice session that other guitarist might have fallen victiom to his urge to swap gear. I always delayed buying my own amp/cab because I had no clue what to buy and no interest to find out. Hey, I used to be bassist! I don't suffer from G.A.S. (gear aquisition syndrom). But now that I've raised a comfortable budget to buy about anything that might be reasonable, I'm running out of excuses for any further delay.
Also I happen to be the guy who takes care of our home recordings, multitracking and mixing. Thus I'm neither new to guitar sound in the room nor on recording. And that is what biased me to go the route of amp modeling instead of a classic tube amp / 4x12" cab.
First I tried the Axe FX with our mini budget PA (QSC GX5 amp & 2x 450W HK Speakers). That sounded like crap. I blame the cheap PA. Then I tried it in combination with a Engel amp / 4x12" Marshall cab. That sounds quite good, but when I walk "the path of amp modeling" I don't apprehend why I should burden me with a colourizing amp/cab. Thus I bought that RCF 712-A thingie. Yet I only have played it on my own, without the band. And it does sound waaaaaay better than our PA. But that is psychoacustics, because there's that cosy low end that will be drowned out by the bass and that sparkling treble that will be swallowed by cymbals and overall noise. No way that sound will cut through. But to make it cut through I'd have to apply massive eq. Is that the way it should be or is it a "feature" specific to these monitors?
Long story short:
I bought a RCF Art 712-A MK IV active monitor to amplify my Axe FX II+. I'm irritated because this setup sounds so "hifi". Lots, lots, massive lots of boomy bass low end and crisp sparkling hights. To make it sound remotly like a guitar I must compensate it with quite extreme eq adjustments. Is that a typical experience a newbie to modeling amp technique must go through?
Short story long:
Background:
I've rather been a bassist than a guitarist for the last decades. Ok. Let's be honest. I'm not a guitarist at all. I only happen to own one and despite knowing better, my band mates currently insist on me using it at them. I don't own a guitar amplifier/cab yet and have used the "oddments" of our other guitarrist during the last year. These "oddments" consist of a 4x12" Marshall cabinet and various amps by Orange, Engel, Marshall - quality gear not to be sneezed at. I never really dug into the quest for the perfect sound because any other practice session that other guitarist might have fallen victiom to his urge to swap gear. I always delayed buying my own amp/cab because I had no clue what to buy and no interest to find out. Hey, I used to be bassist! I don't suffer from G.A.S. (gear aquisition syndrom). But now that I've raised a comfortable budget to buy about anything that might be reasonable, I'm running out of excuses for any further delay.
Also I happen to be the guy who takes care of our home recordings, multitracking and mixing. Thus I'm neither new to guitar sound in the room nor on recording. And that is what biased me to go the route of amp modeling instead of a classic tube amp / 4x12" cab.
First I tried the Axe FX with our mini budget PA (QSC GX5 amp & 2x 450W HK Speakers). That sounded like crap. I blame the cheap PA. Then I tried it in combination with a Engel amp / 4x12" Marshall cab. That sounds quite good, but when I walk "the path of amp modeling" I don't apprehend why I should burden me with a colourizing amp/cab. Thus I bought that RCF 712-A thingie. Yet I only have played it on my own, without the band. And it does sound waaaaaay better than our PA. But that is psychoacustics, because there's that cosy low end that will be drowned out by the bass and that sparkling treble that will be swallowed by cymbals and overall noise. No way that sound will cut through. But to make it cut through I'd have to apply massive eq. Is that the way it should be or is it a "feature" specific to these monitors?