• We would like to remind our members that this is a privately owned, run and supported forum. You are here at the invitation and discretion of the owners. As such, rules and standards of conduct will be applied that help keep this forum functioning as the owners desire. These include, but are not limited to, removing content and even access to the forum.

    Please give yourself a refresher on the forum rules you agreed to follow when you signed up.

Mayer used an Axe-FX 3 for his new album

Status
Not open for further replies.

∞Fractals

Fractal Fanatic
I have a feeling many of us are within a decade or so of each other.

Btw - Not all musicians make it to be old. I also find those that struggle in life are often better people for it.

Glad JM is enlightened a little w/ our AxeFX …👍
 

Greg Ferguson

Fractal Fanatic
Far as i know Lettieri uses kempers for fly dates and home stuff but still prefers an amp on stage.
That's right. And he's like other players, looking for the best tone and flexibility. And, with Mayer speaking up, I'm sure Lettieri will notice.
 

hanlon92

Member
It’s unsurprising that anyone would use a modeler these days. There’s a local studio by me which has all sorts of stupid amps. Like a ken fisher trainwreck, and an legit dumble ODS, and pretty much any other amp you can think of. They also have an axe fx 3, and guess what gets used the most for recording sessions. Makes me wonder why they have all those other crazy amps…
 

My name is mud

Power User
It’s unsurprising that anyone would use a modeler these days. There’s a local studio by me which has all sorts of stupid amps. Like a ken fisher trainwreck, and an legit dumble ODS, and pretty much any other amp you can think of. They also have an axe fx 3, and guess what gets used the most for recording sessions. Makes me wonder why they have all those other crazy amps…
Hm .
if you analyse what’s going on in the last decade it’s not really like that . I am talking about metal in this one .
in the « axe 2 days », modern djent metal bands , record with it . Then a part move to kemper and then … are back recording with tube amps . I have a lot of examples . Even latest fear factory album is recorded with a modded jcm800 after he use his kemper in other records . « famous » YouTuber like rabea, ola etc play a lot with tube amps in their video. I mean they know the axe 3, but are like children when they unboxing a new head . Like they have fun with modelers and well go back to the real stuff … it’s pretty human to go 2 step up with modern things, listening to mp3, and then going back buying vinyls .
imagine a guitar doing it all (like the variax ) Will I prefer it better than having 10 guitars at home ? There is a mojo with the real stuff, a history.
I play more with my axe than my tube head and probably will record my new album with the axe. But no … the amps are not over .
if I go to a studio, I want to see the real stuff . That’s the difference between a home studio that I have, and a place where your record will sound good 30 years after . Since now, the best sounding records are done in studios I will never go cause they are too much expensive, but I can’t name a record done with a modeler that is a « sounding reference » . Sorry for my poor English
 

hanlon92

Member
Hm .
if you analyse what’s going on in the last decade it’s not really like that . I am talking about metal in this one .
in the « axe 2 days », modern djent metal bands , record with it . Then a part move to kemper and then … are back recording with tube amps . I have a lot of examples . Even latest fear factory album is recorded with a modded jcm800 after he use his kemper in other records . « famous » YouTuber like rabea, ola etc play a lot with tube amps in their video. I mean they know the axe 3, but are like children when they unboxing a new head . Like they have fun with modelers and well go back to the real stuff … it’s pretty human to go 2 step up with modern things, listening to mp3, and then going back buying vinyls .
imagine a guitar doing it all (like the variax ) Will I prefer it better than having 10 guitars at home ? There is a mojo with the real stuff, a history.
I play more with my axe than my tube head and probably will record my new album with the axe. But no … the amps are not over .
if I go to a studio, I want to see the real stuff . That’s the difference between a home studio that I have, and a place where your record will sound good 30 years after . Since now, the best sounding records are done in studios I will never go cause they are too much expensive, but I can’t name a record done with a modeler that is a « sounding reference » . Sorry for my poor English
I wasn’t saying tube amps are dead. I have several high end custom amps that aren’t modeled in the Axe fx that I still use on recordings regularly. I’m only saying that when you get into a studio, unless it’s a realllllyyy nice one (and even then) the modeler is often the choice.

I remember when I did my first REAL session (song got bought by the NFL for placement). I was super excited, brought my big ole pedalboard, and my custom amp, unloaded it all …and the producer handed me a quarter inch and told me I wouldn’t be using it. I had to record direct through guitar rig or something terrible and he messed with it later. Not gonna lie, I was slightly butthurt, but that’s the way a lot of the subsequent sessions have gone. Now I just bring my own modeler so I can at least be happy with the sound and feel.
 

TG3K

Power User
I wasn’t saying tube amps are dead. I have several high end custom amps that aren’t modeled in the Axe fx that I still use on recordings regularly. I’m only saying that when you get into a studio, unless it’s a realllllyyy nice one (and even then) the modeler is often the choice.

I remember when I did my first REAL session (song got bought by the NFL for placement). I was super excited, brought my big ole pedalboard, and my custom amp, unloaded it all …and the producer handed me a quarter inch and told me I wouldn’t be using it. I had to record direct through guitar rig or something terrible and he messed with it later. Not gonna lie, I was slightly butthurt, but that’s the way a lot of the subsequent sessions have gone. Now I just bring my own modeler so I can at least be happy with the sound and feel.
I did a "hired gun" session last summer at a studio I hadn't been to before. I took my Axe-Fx and foot controllers. We did a couple of songs with multiple guitar tracks. The producer/engineer was a tube amp guy, but was familiar with Fractal products, since Larry Mitchell (and probably others) had used them in that studio before.

I used my Fractal rig for all of the tracks except one. On that track, the producer was looking for a specific Marshall sound, so instead of trying to dial it on one the Axe-Fx, he had me plug into one of the vintage Marshall rigs he had in the iso room and he had the tone he wanted within a minute or two. I think he was expecting me to be butthurt about not using my rig for that track, but I was fine with the idea. (That's the first time I've played through a real amp in years, so I kind of enjoyed the novelty of the whole thing.)
 

unix-guy

Legend!
Same here don’t worry . Everyone got their tastes, but for me he plays music for 14 yo girls . Here only girls like him 😅. I ve listen a couple track , he play good but nothing’s special, the song from SNOB rock (lol) sound like a diluted dire strait (wild blue if I remember ) . Now I need to run before showing the gigs in bars that I was doing at 14 .
this guy is pretentious and gives me zero emotions and don’t impress me at all . Tastes like they say .
Please learn to play and simultaneously sing Neon... I'll wait.

If you actually listened to the music you'd realize many songs have quite a lot going on that is more complex than casual listening reveals.

The Sob Rock album is intentionally 80s-toned - that's the concept of the album. There are several tracks that lean towards Knopfler quite nicely.

But as you say, it's a matter of taste...
 

deathbyguitar

Power User
Please learn to play and simultaneously sing Neon... I'll wait.

If you actually listened to the music you'd realize many songs have quite a lot going on that is more complex than casual listening reveals.

The Sob Rock album is intentionally 80s-toned - that's the concept of the album. There are several tracks that lean towards Knopfler quite nicely.

But as you say, it's a matter of taste...
I'm not really into John's music but that song f-ing rules. That riff is crazy.
 

My name is mud

Power User
Seriously I am not saying he plays bad . But to me his music is very soft and cheesy . He is not a Stevie ray Vaughan or …that’s not rock at all. He don’t have special guitar skills that make him a flag ship of nowadays guitar player like many person say. I have watch some interviews, he talk like he is … don’t know … that’s not Steve vai you know 😅 Just hit « fingerstyle acoustic » in YouTube and you have hundreds of young guys doing crazy things in tapping and open tuning with a folk guitar (if we stay in this « pop » approach) . But yeah respect, if you guys enjoy his music that’s nice. Just talking . He is not god for everyone
 

Jason Scott

Fractal Fanatic
Never been a fan of Mayer's music, and personally, I don't like his voice. The latest album has a couple of songs I like, though I'd prefer someone else singing them.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom