Specifically the Line 6 X3 Live. I did a write-up on it with pictures when the X3 first came out.
So the X3 had a black screen of death?
Specifically the Line 6 X3 Live. I did a write-up on it with pictures when the X3 first came out.
So the X3 had a black screen of death?
You are working in IT for 8 years and you still don't know that you pay for the software R&D and not the hardware?
Are you the intern that makes the coffee?
Besides, your "calculation" is wrong anyway. The DSPs alone cost 1/5th to 1/4th of the purchase price of an AX8 or ane FX II for that matter. Include chassis, mainboard and quality periphery and you are at least at 1/3th the selling price already in pure hardware components (for the AX8 at least... I'd say the FX II has a higher margin, but that's to be expected from something that stems from the "early adopter" phase (and must therefore cover the R&D cost of new developed products like the AX8) and is also considered the top-end product of it's market segment.
At the point of feature saturation you can still always add new content (like new models) or optimize and refactor your code to free hardware resources. Guess what happened in the Quantum release? Right! The CPU usage went down.
But surely, as you work in a software company you would know that.
And? If you think calling back products just to fix hardware issues that could be solved (or worked around) by a software update is a good business practice, then clearly you haven't visited any economics (or the right) classes in college.
It is one option in a host of many. Not even the creator himself denies that (and besides: one of the coolest features of Fractal products is the fact that the creator himself comments on forum posts in sometimes brutal honesty). What sets the Axe apart from it's competitors is that it had a headstart of many years to improve the algorithms to the amount of quality we see today. Besides, supply and demand: Fractal has established a trustworthy reputation from the ground-up over the last decade. If people pay that much for their products, chances are the price is just right. Let me guess: you own at least one Apple product?
But who am I talking to? You work in software developement after all...
Sure. Because programmers and engineers get absolutely no salary at all. Especially not in the US.I'm laughing at the fact that you seem to think Software Dev is an endless black hole where profits go to die. After a certain number of purchases that software is paid for. Especially the feature complete part. Now of course new stuff needs funds nobody ever said that but that doesn't always mean someone is using those profits for Dev. Look at how long Line 6 sat on the POD franchise. They didn't start making new stuff until the Chinese started making copies.
You say that, yet you were too lazy to just google "TigerSharc DSP", select the first link that pops up and find out that one of them alone is already 200$, of which the FX II sports two (also, I remember that back when the FX II was released, they were more like 300-350$):Actually there were no calculations in any of the previous post. Thanks for throwing numbers out there though. All it takes is a trip to Digikey or any of the electronics parts vendors to determine how much the chips actually cost.
Why should I care about GPUs? The Axe and the AX8 both use DSPs. That's how it is. And there is a little bit of quantity difference between audio gear and entertainment consoles...People do hardware breakdowns all the time. When that happens either cost savings are realized and passed back to the customer or the price stays static and the customer gets a couple new features. That doesn't mean customers shouldn't expect a price drop. Look at the XBOX One and PS4. One GPU is probably faster than both of those DSPs. http://www.nvidia.com/content/GTC/documents/1011_GTC09.pdf
Matter of fact I know there are people working on using GPUs/APUs to process audio. And those consoles are literally 1/3 the price of the AxeFX and they have more parts. So excuse the rest of us from expecting better.
Your point? You still have to pay your employees, no matter if a product is feature complete or not.That happens with every product. You are preaching to the choir. Performance goals are always planned from the outset. Sometimes you get lucky and hire Dev that has skills and they fix issues you didn't know were caused in the first wave of updates. I read the release notes on the Wiki, so I am aware of the Quantum release notes.
I never said that I agree with this business practice. I just said that it's an economical nightmare and that I can understand why they did it.The only time there is ever a recall is when someone high up within a company has a moral compass, or if enough people are upset by an issue there may be lawyers involved. None of this I mentioned having anything to do with AxeFX. Just because you agree with Line6's sometimes shady business practices doesn't mean I have to. If you make a bad design choice then own up to it.
So, you are giving Fractal a hard time, accusing them for unreasonable pricing because of ... bad engineering of it's competitor? Don't you see how absurd that is?In this case you have bad copper paint shorting out a board because they didn't use a metal plate or copper foil shielding. Copper paint went under the plastic that supported the weight from the top plastic cover and caused it to turn into a button that shorts everything under the support leg.
Really? We are down to language now? Have you maybe in your limited mind considered the possibility that english is not my first language?Somebody is way too busy fanboy posting. You got so excited replying that you couldn't even spell Development.
Pot. Kettle.self-opinionated smug.
True. Uh. I edit it out.Pot. Kettle.
Nothing Line 6 makes/made compares to the Axe-fx, it's not even worth discussing.
Bottom line is that the just the Impulse responses and superior dsp, end the story right here.
Carry On, nothing to see here, lol. I know what it is made of, do you?
My thoughts exactly. The internet is a weird place. People are saying things anonymously and acting like f.ex. this one person in this thread. I have tried to read his posts to understand what he's trying to achieve but I'm not getting it. I guess he thinks FAS is not run good enough. But why does he care? I don't get it. How do you look at all the things FAS has achieved and not be impressed?What is it about the Fractal that brings out the arm chair CEO's??
I've read the various modeler wars etc., but post after post on this forum all up in FAS business like they know how the business is run or better... how it "should" be.
Baffled by it.
Nothing Line 6 makes/made compares to the Axe-fx, it's not even worth discussing.
Bottom line is that the Impulse responses and superior dsp in the Axe-II, end the story right here.
Carry On, nothing to see here, lol. I know what it is made of, do you?
I really love the ignore function....
Hope not XDIs there a limit to how many people you can ignore?