Let's see those FM9 rigs!

iaresee said:
The latest iteration of the board. This should be enough power for one guitarist on stage, right? Right?

I might replace the expression knob on the far left with one of these. Need to play it out a bit and see if I really need durable, foot controllable expression for what I'm using that knob for now (rates on modulation effects like rotary, flange, chorus, etc.).

Red and blue expression knobs are for the VP4. What they do depends on the preset. In this preset they let me control the master feedback and tape speed on the delay block so I can make spaceship noises with it.

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What is the point of coupling a VP4 and a FM9?
Using a Plex Delay on another processor?
 
Lolo-G said:
What is the point of coupling a VP4 and a FM9?
Using a Plex Delay on another processor?
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First reason I would do it is to give me instant access to my presets effects, so you could have a couple of drives and delays always available to you without changing layouts.

And the other reason is you can free up some extra juicy CPU headroom on the FM9 for going crazy with.
 
chucma said:
First reason I would do it is to give me instant access to my presets effects, so you could have a couple of drives and delays always available to you without changing layouts.
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An FC6 with FM9 would do this without any problems.
chucma said:
And the other reason is you can free up some extra juicy CPU headroom on the FM9 for going crazy with.
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indeed it is a good reason
 
I have been considering getting one of these for the send/receive loop in my FM9T to free up some CPU. It means I could delete my Pitch Block and possibly a couple of other blocks, and the tracking on the POG3 seems to be pretty good (judging by YT videos).

Having said that, my FM9T is doing a HECK of a lot for me in my main preset, so this would just be a luxury purchase, not a necessity. I'm currently running in the low 81% CPU usage, so I suppose one day an essential FW update might nudge that up a bit more and then give me reason to pull the trigger on the POG3.

https://www.ehx.com/products/pog3/

An alternative CPU saver I have employed is to create a copies of my main preset and have those focus on specific effects. The downside of that is switching between presets means some things get reset to default (like tempo, and bypass states of certain blocks I might temporarily change in a scene). Problem with this is I get lazy when it comes to updating all the copies!
 
chucma said:
I have been considering getting one of these for the send/receive loop in my FM9T to free up some CPU. It means I could delete my Pitch Block and possibly a couple of other blocks, and the tracking on the POG3 seems to be pretty good (judging by YT videos).

Having said that, my FM9T is doing a HECK of a lot for me in my main preset, so this would just be a luxury purchase, not a necessity. I'm currently running in the low 81% CPU usage, so I suppose one day an essential FW update might nudge that up a bit more and then give me reason to pull the trigger on the POG3.

https://www.ehx.com/products/pog3/

An alternative CPU saver I have employed is to create a copies of my main preset and have those focus on specific effects. The downside of that is switching between presets means some things get reset to default (like tempo, and bypass states of certain blocks I might temporarily change in a scene). Problem with this is I get lazy when it comes to updating all the copies!
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Why not VP4? :D
 
iaresee said:
Why not VP4? :D
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I'm gonna show my ignorance, because I have not spent the time to RTFM, but....

But is it possible to connect VP4 via SPDIF to FM9, and split up the VP4 blocks?

For example, if I wanted to put VP4 blocks 1 & 2 in front of FM9's "AMP" block, VP4 blocks 3 & 4 after the "AMP block"? I would assume that the VP4 blocks need to stay together, but there's a lot I still don't know about SPDIF.

Luckily, I'm not using enough CPU power to really need VP4, but that doesn't mean it isn't tempting me.
 
GMGM said:
But is it possible to connect VP4 via SPDIF to FM9, and split up the VP4 blocks?
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Yes and no.

You can connect via SPDIF, but if you do, the VP4 blocks need to stay together. Because in the FM9 grid it'll be SPDIF Out > VP4 > SPDIF In.

GMGM said:
For example, if I wanted to put VP4 blocks 1 & 2 in front of FM9's "AMP" block, VP4 blocks 3 & 4 after the "AMP block"? I would assume that the VP4 blocks need to stay together, but there's a lot I still don't know about SPDIF.
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You could make this work but it'd be complex and require the use of OUT2 and OUT3. You'd be running the VP4 in "4CM mode" to make this work. It would also mean the VP4 is in mono mode.
 
iaresee said:
Yes and no.

You can connect via SPDIF, but if you do, the VP4 blocks need to stay together. Because in the FM9 grid it'll be SPDIF Out > VP4 > SPDIF In.


You could make this work but it'd be complex and require the use of OUT2 and OUT3. You'd be running the VP4 in "4CM mode" to make this work. It would also mean the VP4 is in mono mode.
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Thanks! I assumed that was probably the case, but was just wishful thinking.

I run mono anyway, so mono 4CM wouldn't e the end of the world. However, the SPDIF would eliminate the extra A/D conversion and assocaited latency.

FM9 already has a dedicated CPU for reverb, my hungriest "post" effect anyway, so splitting up VP4 blocks probably wouldn't payoff quite like I thought it would anyway.

As it is, I definitely don't need VP4, I'm just looking for excuses to get one, hahaha. But realistically, by the time my presets start to tax the resources of FM9, I'll probably be ready to upgrade to AFX3 :)
 
iaresee said:
Why not VP4? :D
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Not gonna lie, am having a serious think about it. But the main reason is cos I don’t want to loose my FC12, I use all 12 buttons with 2 layouts (I know, a little IA greedy).

Fitting a VP4 to my board would be a challenge. And I’ve not managed to get the pitch tracking as dialled in as on my QC (which I returned cos I preferred my Fractal), so the POG3 might be a better solution for me.

But all still up in the air as I consider options.
 
Here are some pictures of a new FM9 rig I've built recently. Nothing you guys haven't already seen, and 100% inspired by what I saw in this thread :)

The board is Temple Audio Duo 34 with IEC Power Module on one side, and AMP Module on the other. Still need to test the power amp, but since I rarely use real cabs these days, having something this small just in case is super cool.

Initially, I wanted it as simple as possible but later decided to add some pedals. The TC Mimiq is IMO the best thing on the market as far as doublers go, especially when used before two hard-panned Amp blocks. The Bodyrez does what it says, and could probably be replicated inside the FM9, but this way I can simplify my presets and save some CPU.

I use piezo-equipped guitars, so the signal flow is:
Guitar TRS out -> MXR TRS Split/Tap ->
a) Magnetic Pickups -> IN1
b) Piezo -> BodyRez -> IN2
c) OUR 3 L -> Mimiq Mono IN -> Mimiq Stereo Out -> IN3 Stereo

The expression pedals are my old Mission EP-1 and SP-1, I've had them since 2013 or so. Never failed me!

The pedals are powered by Cioks DC7. I went for this one, because it can also deliver enough power to the Temple AMP Module with the 24V output. A basic IEC Y cable splits the power between the Cioks and the FM9.

The power supply, Mission pedals, and FM9 are attached to the board with screws and wide washers. For TC and MXR stuff, I used Temple mounting plates. Audio cables are all Rockboard flat, which turned out crucial to fit the pedals. I filed one of the larger holes on the board to fit a cable through. The underside doesn't look that great with all the cables (some of them too long), but the priority was to have the cabling invisible from the top.

Since I use the dedicated Temple Audio Bag for now (which is not that great), I decided to also get the KnK Shields screen protectors. Highly recommended!
 

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Latest iteration of the pedalboard,
replacement of an EV-2 by the small DOD-E which is very suitable as a Wha-Wha pedal,
addition of a switch to switch to tuning with mute, the function is present on the FC-6 which I only use for concerts.
Removal of the BOSS SY200.
Ready for the upcoming spring and summer concerts

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Kamil Kisiel said:
The photographer at a recent music festival got a closeup shot of my FM9 board...View attachment 146901
Nothing too fancy, two FC pedals and a MIDI out to my synthesizer so that switching scenes can switch patches on it.
Output direct to the PA and a Laney FR-212 which you can see glowing in the background here:

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Couple pics from another show (only the Laney amp is mine..)
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What board is the FM9 on?
 
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