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Wish Larger and more accurate calibration on the advanced tuner configuration parameters

Rich G.

Experienced
I don't have a III, but this is a wish I've had for the II for a long time. Maybe not a full octave, but something wider.

My band tunes down a half step, so A is 415.3 Hz. The calibration only goes down to 430. The tuner that I use on my iPhone (iStroboSoft) allows you to transpose the tuner in half step increments, plus it lets you set the 'Concert A' note.

Drives me crazy that the tuner shows Eb, Ab, Db, A#, B, Eb when I'm tuning up.

Where this is particularly useful is with the harmonizer. If I have a harmony set for standard tuning, then switch to a guitar that's tuned a half step down- it would be much easier to change the tuning calibration in the AxeFx than maintain two presets- One with the A harmony, the other with the Ab version.
 

Rich G.

Experienced
This has nothing to do with correct calibration.
Whatever it takes to make my A string display 'A' at 415.3 Hz... and the harmonizer should also be based on that calibration... So it doesn't matter if I use a guitar tuned to A440 or a half step down to A415.3. All I have to do is change the calibration and all my harmonizer presets will be "in tune".
 

hippietim

Fractal Fanatic
Whatever it takes to make my A string display 'A' at 415.3 Hz... and the harmonizer should also be based on that calibration... So it doesn't matter if I use a guitar tuned to A440 or a half step down to A415.3. All I have to do is change the calibration and all my harmonizer presets will be "in tune".
You're asking for some sort of offset, not calibration. Personally, I don't care about the tuner showing me A vs. Ab/G# when I'm tuned down. But I'm right there with you in wanting to have all of my presets compensate automatically for this sort of thing.
 

Bakerman

Axe-Master
It would be good if the calibration range was at least a semitone. 430-450 Hz is less than a semitone.

If you happen to tune to something like 428 Hz this can make some intelligent harmony intervals slightly off.

Tuner offsets can be used to have a reference slightly outside of 430-450 read as in tune, but that full range is still a few cents short of a semitone IIRC.
 

skunc

Inspired
I would like to use my tuner for custom tunings-dobro, BFTS, pedal steel... ( being able to set the tuner to calibrate the 3rd say -7 cents flat). Not necessarily to detect a note and offset it but to offset the tuning standard by .1 cents to about -10 would be very helpful to setting up and fine tuning instruments.
 
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Rex

Legend!
I would like to use my tuner for custom tunings-dobro, BFTS, pedal steel... ( being able to set the tuner to calibrate the 3rd being say -7 cents flat). Not necessarily to detect a note and offset it but to offset the tuning standard by .1 cents to about -10 would be very helpful to setting up and fine tuning instruments.
Have you tried working with the offsets in the tuner?
 

skunc

Inspired
Have you tried working with the offsets in the tuner?
I have not. I haven't noticed them. In my defense, I have just made an huge jump in firmware. I've only had 10.02 for a few days and I am currently out of the country working, without my III...
What Firmware version were the offsets added? I would like to study the release notes.
 

skunc

Inspired
I finally made time check out the tuner again. There have been some nice recent additions to the tuner! Working in the pro touring industry I would normally go directly to Fractal Audio, but I wanted to discover whether there are other pro players/techs out there with similar wishes.

In the past I have relied on a separate dedicated tuner for tuning guitars. I tune and intonate many straight ahead guitars that are don't require anything special. Some of these I will use some subtle offsets to make the instruments sound in tune. I have other sets of offsets that I use to correct older Gibson guitars that have the incorrect fret placement (thanks to Jim DeCola this is no longer an issue with Gibson guitars). I also have acoustics and electrics with various stock compensations that need to be checked periodically ie BFTS, Taylor, Duesenberg, and PRS. With the current tuner configuration in the Axe III this is a tricky process.

This is what I noticed...
1. There is only one offset tuning that is possible to save and it cannot be used on an open tuning or alternate tuning.
2. It appears that the offsets are set up per each string when in traditional standard tuning only (and when using downtune).
a. When I tune to open D major (D,A,D,F#,A,D) flatten the 3rd/F# a few cents and attempt to tune the B string (the higher A) the needle and strobe do not agree and (neither are correct) and the string number reference doesn't follow either due to the altered notes.
3. If I want to check my BFTS calibration on electric it is an endless amount of adjusting the offsets up and down and jumping between screens. The open strings and the intonation are different and there is no way to store them. Checking an acoustic that is tempered would be a struggle due to tuning the harmonics.
4. I had to constantly page away from the tuner to adjust the offset, tune the offset and turn it on and off.
5. The offsets and the offset ON/OFF are on separate pages.
6. With this existing tuner configuration, the configure page should be the 3rd page and the 2nd page should be the offsets with the offset on/off control.


This would be a game changer for me...
A nice solution would be to add a "master cents offset knob" to the TUNE screen.
Default to 0.00
Put the offset numbers below the note name, string number or center section below the strobe.
Use the rotary push encoder closest to the new cents display (A,C,or E) and push to engage/disengage and rotate to alter the cents + or -
The numbers could blink while feature is engaged.
The offset would be solid when disengaged (another push) and simutaniously default to 0.00.
Exiting the tuner should automatically disengage the master offset and set the offset to the default value of 0.00.

Benefits:
This would expedite the tuning process for a subtle offset, ie flattening a 3rd in an open tuning, (or the EVH flattening the B string a bit) or flattening a single string like the g string or low dropped note on a light gauge set of strings. ie EVH drop A on "Good Enough," and Yes "Big Generator"
This would make it much easier when checking the intonation/calibration on a tempered instrument.
Quickly tune sweetened open or altered tunings.
You can easily determine how far any a note, intonation point or harmonic is out or needs to be adjusted to sound in tune.
No need to constantly page away from the tuner, no paging back and forth to offset the tuner for a moment.
One less piece of gear to bring along to the studio or performance!
 
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