Karl Houseknecht
Power User
But haven't you heard? With a "good profile", the Kemper is good!it did get tiresome trying to find a good profile
I searched for that elusive "good profile" too. Got tiring.
But haven't you heard? With a "good profile", the Kemper is good!it did get tiresome trying to find a good profile
Output compression set to feedback, increasing the levels somewhat, as you loose some volume typically + some eq settings for a "clearer", more TS style sound = that's how I've been replicating my kemper profiles with fm3 specifically. That goes a long way (for me) in getting a more kemper kind of feel if that's what I'm after. That's the process I went through through when comparing my kemper direct profiles to fm3 amp sims, to see how close I could get.well, you should have read better. On every forum that I frequent I find mockery of this dirge repeated every time a new firmware comes out.
but, beyond this, it's my ears that tells me that what i hear in FAS is not the sound of "that" amplifier, but the sound of "that" amplifier if it was HIFI. It's something in the high frequencies i cannot explain but just makes it plastic and not real. I know maybe metal guys can enjoy this but i look for vintage sounds and not AX8 neither FM3 made me happy.
Again, it's just my ears
Well, provide some examples of that or cut the crap.well, you should have read better. On every forum that I frequent I find mockery of this dirge repeated every time a new firmware comes out.
but, beyond this, it's my ears that tells me that what i hear in FAS is not the sound of "that" amplifier, but the sound of "that" amplifier if it was HIFI. It's something in the high frequencies i cannot explain but just makes it plastic and not real. I know maybe metal guys can enjoy this but i look for vintage sounds and not AX8 neither FM3 made me happy.
Again, it's just my ears
That's because that's the "party line". They know their basic premise is flawed: making a sonic copy of a sound profile (basically making an ir - same as what we have with the Tone Match block) and then sending your signal past a filter. That's not amp modeling at all. Not even a little bit. There's nothing to improve except maybe the fidelity of the ir capture. After that, you're stuck.I didn't feel kemper people cared about improving the core amp tones/maybe truly believed it's "spot on".
LOL go sit in the car.And nuttin' we shall be...
Which way to the door?
Fractal Audio: elevating your tone to new Hemispheres!You ain't heard nuttin' yet. Wait 'til you hear "Cygnus"...
Not true. Why do you think so many guitarists spend money modding their Marshalls?because in real life it would never occur to you to go to touch certain parameters of an amplifier (just as you would not use 10 different amps in a single concert but that's another matter) and I find excessive complexity a big limit and a potential waste of time on one hand when making tones, on the other hand it introduces the question of "not having done enough for your sound".
I've been using analog and then digital systems for 30 years, but any system of any type must simplify the life of those who use it and bring it to the result in the most intuitive way possible.
again, that's my way of seeing things, i'm just a simple user
Exactly. Axe FX amp models are fairly limited compared to all the possible electronics you can change inside a real amplifier. Not even talking about cabinets, speakers, effect units, cables etc. It’s endless.Not true. Why do you think so many guitarists spend money modding their Marshalls?
You ain't heard nuttin' yet. Wait 'til you hear "Cygnus"...
The frustrating thing with Fractal is the endless parameters that one finds themselves tweaking for hours never being satisfied. That's why they sent their 'A team' out to the pros using their gear to replicate and dial in the tones.
Just my 2 cents.
I almost exclusively used kemper to profile amps and use these profiles. The issue was always kemper "ts" tone compared to source. While it's possible (well it happens a lot for sure) that someone plays profiles not fitting to them and comes to conclusions that don't follow, I also think some dislike kemper tones for reasons having to do with innacuracy in profiling.@Jimmykonsta I've had all the Fractal products and currently play a Kemper. They both have downsides. You can sample 20 crappy profiles and miss the good ones then come to a conclusion that the Kemper sucks and has all the problems you described. There are about 5% killer profiles and the other 95% range from crap to horrid crap.
The frustrating thing with Fractal is the endless parameters that one finds themselves tweaking for hours never being satisfied. That's why they sent their 'A team' out to the pros using their gear to replicate and dial in the tones.
Just my 2 cents.
@Jimmykonsta I've had all the Fractal products and currently play a Kemper. They both have downsides. You can sample 20 crappy profiles and miss the good ones then come to a conclusion that the Kemper sucks and has all the problems you described. There are about 5% killer profiles and the other 95% range from crap to horrid crap.
The frustrating thing with Fractal is the endless parameters that one finds themselves tweaking for hours never being satisfied. That's why they sent their 'A team' out to the pros using their gear to replicate and dial in the tones.
Just my 2 cents.
I sold my Kemper, there is a sound i can't unhear in it. The Quad Cortex capture has promise, the review by Paul Davids ripped it a bit in other categories. My hand keeps hovering over the buy button on the Axe FX III but holding out to see more about the QC and what Fractal has coming up...I still go back and forth between the modelling on the Axe III/FM3 vs Kemper. For some reason, the Kemper sits ever-so-slightly better in mixes I've done (which are admittedly crap, I'm a novice). A really good profile sounds and feels as good as the Axe III/FM3 IMO, but the ability to tweak faithfully makes me lean toward the Axe if I want to play a certain amp type and tweak. The Axe sounds amazing all the time, whereas there are a LOT of crap profiles out there.
Having said all this, I'm very much looking forward to hearing/playing Cygnus.
Have you actually used the Kemper editor? What a pain locking and unlocking things, profile and performance modes etc. Late to the game and poorly thought out and implemented! (I say this as a Kemper owner BTW). Add in the rude staff and the fact that many can hear a “Kemper sound” in each profile (I personally don’t but could be deaf!) and a whole host of other issues like limited routing, lack of an audio interface, no Win7 support etc and the Axe product just looks better and better.I would probably enjoy an editor with two modes better, one simple and one advanced (And I'd only ever use the simple one)
nope. I don't have to touch hardly any parameters beyond the basic tab and am more than satisfied. simply not true.@Jimmykonsta I've had all the Fractal products and currently play a Kemper. They both have downsides. You can sample 20 crappy profiles and miss the good ones then come to a conclusion that the Kemper sucks and has all the problems you described. There are about 5% killer profiles and the other 95% range from crap to horrid crap.
The frustrating thing with Fractal is the endless parameters that one finds themselves tweaking for hours never being satisfied. That's why they sent their 'A team' out to the pros using their gear to replicate and dial in the tones.
Just my 2 cents.
Yeah, I was not able to unhear that sound in a Kemper after realizing/hearing there was a certain sound that was part of the Kemper sound/process.I sold my Kemper, there is a sound i can't unhear in it. The Quad Cortex capture has promise, the review by Paul Davids ripped it a bit in other categories. My hand keeps hovering over the buy button on the Axe FX III but holding out to see more about the QC and what Fractal has coming up...
They could improve the EQ matching facilities. You can literally (as opposed to.. metaphorically?! Lel) EQ match a profile in your daw to the profiled source tone and get closer.That's because that's the "party line". They know their basic premise is flawed: making a sonic copy of a sound profile (basically making an ir - same as what we have with the Tone Match block) and then sending your signal past a filter. That's not amp modeling at all. Not even a little bit. There's nothing to improve except maybe the fidelity of the ir capture. After that, you're stuck.