Just tried a Tone X One

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I have to laugh.

When I first joined the FAS community (with an FM9 Turbo), I was a bit overwhelmed with the analysis paralysis of all the tweak ability. However, coming from Helix - I got up to speed pretty quick.

I just got a Tone X One. Wow.

What a clusterF@$ of an ecosystem that is. I literally cannot put into words how painful, unintuitive, and just insane that setup is. I consider myself to be 'above average' when it comes to tech adoption, and I am lost. It just doesn't make sense.

Using the Tone X One as a standalone pedal and interface, I have to jump through hoops to audition presets. I had to hack the hardware to go into 'pedal' mode, actually deactivate the stomp by pressing the footswitch, disable direct monitoring, and then I was able to use it as I was intending.

The librarian, editor, and collection setup is so convoluted. The online system for registering (IK Product Manager) is glitchy and throws errors non-stop. Even after watching about 20 video tutorials last night from respected YouTubers in this space, I still can't wrap my head around the workflow.

Suffice to say, I am very happy with my FM9. Thanks FAS! lol
 
I never tried one but from what I have seen online, it does look confusing! I had thought about getting one a few times to see what I was missing but then came to my senses that i barely utilize what I have and I'm happy with the amps/cabs I do use already so it made no sense to get one.

My friend jumped from fm9 to quad cortex because he wanted something a little smaller and also don't need a lot for his band, and it's is coming today or tomorrow and he said I can try it whenever.

I already don't plan to like it from all the stories I've seen and heard online lol and of course no desire to change.

I love fractal land so much these days!
 
Only last weekend I was helping a friend (celloplayer) with an eventide h90. While the quality of the effects are stellar, I was also surprised how confusing the navigation on the pedal was. After installing their software editor, things were much easier, but I have been wondering if this is also a conscious strategy by companies to make their costumers work more "online" than just on the hardware.
While I am more confident and faster on axe edit as well, I find the hardware with FAS very logical and structured, though!!
 
I am a happy FM9T user, but for general rehearsals, all I bring is a guitar and the Tonex One. I love it for this scenario, because it fits in my gig bag, weighs nothing, and limits my options so all I need to do is concentrate on my playing. Two sounds that I can flip between (very clean and slightly overdriven but pushable with the guitar's volume knob). For me, leaving the FM9 at home has made rehearsals more productive - but nothing sounds as good as the FM9 and I'll use it exclusively at home or at gigs.

I do want to agree, though, that it's not the best UI, so I got two good sounds specifically for rehearsing and then left it at that!
 
cje said:
I am a happy FM9T user, but for general rehearsals, all I bring is a guitar and the Tonex One. I love it for this scenario, because it fits in my gig bag, weighs nothing, and limits my options so all I need to do is concentrate on my playing. Two sounds that I can flip between (very clean and slightly overdriven but pushable with the guitar's volume knob). For me, leaving the FM9 at home has made rehearsals more productive - but nothing sounds as good as the FM9 and I'll use it exclusively at home or at gigs.

I do want to agree, though, that it's not the best UI, so I got two good sounds specifically for rehearsing and then left it at that!
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Would be curious to understand your workflow. I am completely lost in trying to audition amps, that will eventually make it onto the pedal. :/
 
Well I am not asking it to do much. I connected it to my Mac, installed the software and updated the firmware. Then I just went through and found a decent clean amp and a decent Dumble-y amp that cleans up nearly completely, did some basic EQ and level matching, and to be honest I have not needed to plug it back into the computer again. I did all the testing with my Barefaced Reality 112FR.

I rehearse a lot in NYC, so I want to travel light. That was the main thing - how can I get what goes on my shoulders to weigh as little as possible? The spaces in NYC are OK, with walls covered in amps that you can choose from, and each room has a different selection. My methodology was to be able to choose the amp (well, two amps) I want to bring to any rehearsal space, plug it into the PA, and GO. Usually I just have to turn off any processing on that PA channel or do some minor EQ to combat whatever EQ was set up in the master section. That only takes a minute or two.

The glorious byproduct for me was that I no longer had access to my incredible kitchen-sink preset on the FM9 (which is the only preset I use), and so my tonal palate and options available to me are just my volume/tone knobs and playing style. All I need is to be able to go from clean to overdrive with the knob and that's the recipe for a great rehearsal session!

The band loves that I travel incredibly light, take no time to set up, and have a solid tone wherever I go. I could easily use this for a gig, but it's much, much better to use the FM9T live (for me). It also takes no time to set up, and live performance is what I bought it for!
 
I realized I didn't really answer your question. For auditioning amps, I just kept dragging amps into the A or B side of the Tonex 1, and left the ones I liked the most. It seemed pretty easy from what I remember.
 
cje said:
Well I am not asking it to do much. I connected it to my Mac, installed the software and updated the firmware. Then I just went through and found a decent clean amp and a decent Dumble-y amp that cleans up nearly completely, did some basic EQ and level matching, and to be honest I have not needed to plug it back into the computer again. I did all the testing with my Barefaced Reality 112FR.

I rehearse a lot in NYC, so I want to travel light. That was the main thing - how can I get what goes on my shoulders to weigh as little as possible? The spaces in NYC are OK, with walls covered in amps that you can choose from, and each room has a different selection. My methodology was to be able to choose the amp (well, two amps) I want to bring to any rehearsal space, plug it into the PA, and GO. Usually I just have to turn off any processing on that PA channel or do some minor EQ to combat whatever EQ was set up in the master section. That only takes a minute or two.

The glorious byproduct for me was that I no longer had access to my incredible kitchen-sink preset on the FM9 (which is the only preset I use), and so my tonal palate and options available to me are just my volume/tone knobs and playing style. All I need is to be able to go from clean to overdrive with the knob and that's the recipe for a great rehearsal session!

The band loves that I travel incredibly light, take no time to set up, and have a solid tone wherever I go. I could easily use this for a gig, but it's much, much better to use the FM9T live (for me). It also takes no time to set up, and live performance is what I bought it for!
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Yeah that makes sense. I think I am looking at this thing and asking 'too much of it' if you know what I mean. If I simply just drop 2 amps then yeah - I think that is simple. But given that Fractal is so easy, with so many options, the whole workflow of these IK Multimedia softwares felt incredibly confusing.
 
My experience with Tonex as a basement hacker has been quite positive with both the T1 and bigger pedal - like everything, reading the manuals helps, as well as starting with simple use cases and building up. Jason Sadites has good instructional vids + presets.

Great product imo - sounds good, software works well and is quite logically laid out - replacement for Axfx?, No, as I articulated recently here.
 
yeah it's fine... just OK. I grabbed one when the price dropped and spent a weekend capturing my AxeIII tones, then built a small backup pedalboard that I can use in an emergency. For me, the captures are good enough for live and can get me by in a pinch. It's great for that.

That said! I would never, ever, ever, use it as my main playing/recording amp sim. All criticisms about the UI and workflow are valid and it's been out long enough that they should have solved it by now.
 
I think the best part of the Tonex is its DAW plugin application that allows you to record guitar with top quality and feel. The Tonex pedal itself is difficult to use, but not impossible. Of course, the Tonex pedal and VP4 also work well together.
 
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