Ugly Bunny
Power User
I wonder if Ownhammer ever gets depressed knowing that probably - and literally - THOUSANDS of their IRs in each pack will never be used
While I generally agree with you, your math is off. A cab block has 4 slots x 4 channels x 2 cab blocks x 512 presets = 16,384.If you used every single one of the Axe III's 512 patches, and each one of them used a Cab block, and each of those Cab blocks used all 4 possible IR slots, and every single cab slot used a User cab, and you didn't re-use ONE SINGLE CAB in all 512 patches, NOR did you combine any IRs you liked into a single IR like you can easily do, the 2048 user cabs would still be enough slots to support that.
Also, you can EASILY try as many cabs as you want with the software, and the cab slots are infinitely re-writable.
With respect, this entire thread is stupid and the OP has no idea what he's talking about.
To jump to a conclusion like this, I can only assume you either did not read my previous posts/explanation or failed to understand it.If you used every single one of the Axe III's 512 patches, and each one of them used a Cab block, and each of those Cab blocks used all 4 possible IR slots, and every single cab slot used a User cab, and you didn't re-use ONE SINGLE CAB in all 512 patches, NOR did you combine any IRs you liked into a single IR like you can easily do, the 2048 user cabs would still be enough slots to support that.
Also, you can EASILY try as many cabs as you want with the software, and the cab slots are infinitely re-writable.
With respect, this entire thread is stupid and the OP has no idea what he's talking about.
We are over this math calculation many posts ago...While I generally agree with you, your math is off. A cab block has 4 slots x 4 channels x 2 cab blocks x 512 presets = 16,384.
But yes to everything else.
Another option would be to allow for complex searches in Manage Cabs. For example, being able to search for "1x12" AND "57" to pull up all 1x12 cabs captured with an SM57.
That would be very useful.Another option would be to allow for complex searches in Manage Cabs. For example, being able to search for "1x12" AND "57" to pull up all 1x12 cabs captured with an SM57.
That would be very useful.
Thank you, that's along the right direction, I think.Another option would be to allow for complex searches in Manage Cabs. For example, being able to search for "1x12" AND "57" to pull up all 1x12 cabs captured with an SM57.
While I generally agree with you, your math is off. A cab block has 4 slots x 4 channels x 2 cab blocks x 512 presets = 16,384.
But yes to everything else.
It‘s not about using each every different (cab, mic, position) combination in all patches, it’s about being able to efficiently find different combos for different purpose when situation calls for it.
This again, eh? It's been asked for. This naive request doesn't account for (off the top of my head):Thank you, that's along the right direction, I think.
- Why not show a list of cabs to choose from, which dynamically filter as user types?
- Then after choosing the cab, allow users to choose a mic.
- After that allow users to choose position/distance.
Naive...? Are you serious? In fact, the current Fractal IR management system can be called somewhat primitive or naive, IMHO.This again, eh? It's been asked for. This naive request doesn't account for (off the top of my head):
- Multi-mic mixes
- Multi-speaker and cabinet mixes
- Mixes of any kind, really
- IC producers who don't want to give this information to you
Maybe you want a Helix then?In fact, Helix allows for exactly that
I have Helix and Axe III, I love Axe's amp modeling better. That being said, that doesn't mean there is nothing Fractal can learn from Helix's interface, and perhaps do even better.Maybe you want a Helix then?
Added to Wish List. Thanks everyone.Then you should be in Wish List.
Naive...? Are you serious? In fact, the current Fractal IR management system can be called somewhat primitive or naive, IMHO.
I can mix a SM57 from 3 inch with a 121 from 6 inch away within the Cab block, right? I don't necessarily need or want that combo to be baked into a fixed IR. In fact, Helix allows for exactly that, which worked pretty well, you should give it a try. ML Mikko's PoC work also allows putting multiple mics at different positions for a final mixed IR.
On the other hand, there is nothing to prevent the UI to provide those "mixes" as special mic position/configuration. I don't see any problem here.
This is correct. "Unsophisticated" works as well here."naive" is not a derogatory word, nor do I think Ian intented it as any sort of insult or slight. It simply means someone hasn't been using FAS gear, or on the forum for a long time and doesn't know if certain things have been already discussed for years....
Imagine such an interface for single mics, to allow user to select (cab/speaker, mic, position) combination, that's majority of IRs, and user can use that to come up with any mic mix they want.This is correct. "Unsophisticated" works as well here.
This idea has come up a few times in the past few weeks. I guess is spurred by a bunch of new Mikko software users liking that UI and wanting Fractal to crib it and give it to them for use with all IRs and not just Mikko's IRs?
Whatever it is, it misses the mark by a long shot. These fancy interfaces in Helix and Mikko's world work because they're closed worlds. Fractal is an open world when it comes to IRs. IRs don't even have be speakers in cabinets! I have IRs of Echoplexes, acoustic guitars, mandolins, etc.
And then the mixes -- mixes everywhere. The request totally misses out on mixes. IR producers generally don't share detailed information here because the knowledge of how to make that mix is what you're buying from them. IRs are a dime a dozen, but a well-mixed, multi-mic and even multi-speaker IR is something that's unique and the real differentiator between a pack from Mikko or Justin York or Dr. Bonkers.
It's naive to think every IR is a single mic, on a single speaker, in this world.
If you want to sort a library and mix it with a third party tool that does that, go for it. Have at it. But the Fractal IR world is unbounded by these oversimplifications.
The best request I've seen in this area is to allow for a more flexible search implementation in Axe-Edit: https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/allow-boolean-search-in-manage-cabs.162027/#post-1940702
-- that makes sense. You can name your IRs how you like and search them in any way that makes sense to you.