Cobrango
Power User
So yesterday I had a B+ time constant epiphany. is there any models in the axe-fx that's using say a B+ time constant of say 100ms? Because 100ms seems to be a magic number for me. I can only describe it as the sounding more pleasant, and it's as if the sound comes after the pickstroke in a nice way. at lower values say 10ms or 20ms (normal values) the sound kind of "gets in the way" of the pick stroke when I'm practicing using a headset and turning the B+ time constant from 10ms or 20ms or whatever, up to 100ms for all my presets really makes everything *feel* a whole lot better.
It's hard to describe, you just have to feel it for yourself. I'll make a more detailed post about this with sound examples when I have more time, because it's also doing small dramatic awesome things to the tone, but for now I just want to spread B+ time constant awareness, hehe. It's seriously doing something dramatic with the feel of the amp, and now I'm hooked. B+ time constant at 100ms for all my presets forever. it makes sense to have all the presets and different amp models I use, feel the same way.
Of course I'm not sure there are things like sag and MV and a whole bunch of stuff that actually affects the B+ time constant even if set to 100ms because "everything is connected", but it just makes total sense to use 100ms for the B+ time constant on everything. I've searched like crazy on the internet and youtube for "B+ time constant" and the only thing worth mentioning is what's here:
http://wiki.fractalaudio.com/axefx2/index.php?title=AMP_block_parameters#B.2B_TIME_CONST
and, yes it's been posted 100 times on the forum it seems, but this video is the only one I can find where someone is talking about B+ time constant and what it's doing, but what this guy says in the video beneath, between 1:18 and 3:30 in this clip, describes exatcly what I mean and feel about the B+ time constant. he also says this "guitar players of all styles, agreed on the same amount of time" - what time in ms do you think he's talking about? I'd love to know. my love for B+ time constant of 100ms is real, that's for sure!
this has got to be one of the most dramatic things I've ever come across when it comes to the feel of an amp ever. What it does is hard to say, but the way it changes the feel and tone also is pretty insane. You just have to "fidaddle" and find out!
I'd love to hear some more input on this subject from Cliff or anyone who knows how to describe what's happening, the wiki just mention the ghost notes and that it feels stiffer when you go lower, but for me the magic lays in the higher values, 100ms
as for tone the value of 100ms feels and sounds better for legato because the amp does not "spit" as much and the attack feels as if there's less of a transient when hitting the note, and the note sounds more constant (pun intended) from start to finish. It keeps what you're hearing from the start to the end of the note in the low end for example. at lower values like 10ms or 20ms I feel the low end is more boomy and there's something going on in the treble and mids too. 100ms not only feels the best to me but also sounds the best.
It may be that it acts kind of like a compressor (in a none compressing way) with a slower attack, letting the note just kind of hang there with not so drastic moves. way awesome for legato! I'm insanely excited about this, even though I found out about the 100ms thing back in 2013 (check post #9 : http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/vox-ad120vt-tone-match-preparation.67463/#post-832260 ) but I kind of forgot about the whole B+ time constant and I guess with all the firmware updates and everything this even more noticable now.
What say you?
It's hard to describe, you just have to feel it for yourself. I'll make a more detailed post about this with sound examples when I have more time, because it's also doing small dramatic awesome things to the tone, but for now I just want to spread B+ time constant awareness, hehe. It's seriously doing something dramatic with the feel of the amp, and now I'm hooked. B+ time constant at 100ms for all my presets forever. it makes sense to have all the presets and different amp models I use, feel the same way.
Of course I'm not sure there are things like sag and MV and a whole bunch of stuff that actually affects the B+ time constant even if set to 100ms because "everything is connected", but it just makes total sense to use 100ms for the B+ time constant on everything. I've searched like crazy on the internet and youtube for "B+ time constant" and the only thing worth mentioning is what's here:
http://wiki.fractalaudio.com/axefx2/index.php?title=AMP_block_parameters#B.2B_TIME_CONST
and, yes it's been posted 100 times on the forum it seems, but this video is the only one I can find where someone is talking about B+ time constant and what it's doing, but what this guy says in the video beneath, between 1:18 and 3:30 in this clip, describes exatcly what I mean and feel about the B+ time constant. he also says this "guitar players of all styles, agreed on the same amount of time" - what time in ms do you think he's talking about? I'd love to know. my love for B+ time constant of 100ms is real, that's for sure!
this has got to be one of the most dramatic things I've ever come across when it comes to the feel of an amp ever. What it does is hard to say, but the way it changes the feel and tone also is pretty insane. You just have to "fidaddle" and find out!
I'd love to hear some more input on this subject from Cliff or anyone who knows how to describe what's happening, the wiki just mention the ghost notes and that it feels stiffer when you go lower, but for me the magic lays in the higher values, 100ms
as for tone the value of 100ms feels and sounds better for legato because the amp does not "spit" as much and the attack feels as if there's less of a transient when hitting the note, and the note sounds more constant (pun intended) from start to finish. It keeps what you're hearing from the start to the end of the note in the low end for example. at lower values like 10ms or 20ms I feel the low end is more boomy and there's something going on in the treble and mids too. 100ms not only feels the best to me but also sounds the best.
It may be that it acts kind of like a compressor (in a none compressing way) with a slower attack, letting the note just kind of hang there with not so drastic moves. way awesome for legato! I'm insanely excited about this, even though I found out about the 100ms thing back in 2013 (check post #9 : http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/vox-ad120vt-tone-match-preparation.67463/#post-832260 ) but I kind of forgot about the whole B+ time constant and I guess with all the firmware updates and everything this even more noticable now.
What say you?