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HotKitty (1.05) is nasty as hell!

Discussion in 'Axe-Fx II Discussion' started by rsf1977_again, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. frankyandreas

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    Trying this block out for the first time today. Really addictive.
     
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    Thanks for the tip, I just tried it with your settings and IR's and also with a bad cat cab IR, no doubt with your settings the amp grew a pair of nasty iron balls!
    Man, this is amp + IR sounds fantastic, gona try that in coming rehearsal.
     
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    Yeah, I know. But I'm puzzled as to whether the model may be "wrong" because of a bad setting of the negative feedback or not. And, like I said, even with the low cut at 450Hz, there is a lot of bass there. Seems odd.

    The Hot Cat I remember had this great low-mid growl to it. That's what made me want a Tele for it. It rolled off the shrillness of the bridge pickup and turned it into all the girth you'd ever want, but with the bite that you expect from a Tele. Without some pretty big tweaks, I'm not getting that out of the AFX version. Not that it doesn't sound good in some respects, just not like what I remember.
     
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    Pretty much exactly what I do with that model (which, with the real deal, is all about cranking the mids), and it slays!
     
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  5. rsf1977_again

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    Yeah, I have the mids around 9.5 and it sounds mean and in your face. This amp is a gem
     
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    Hmm, I wouldn't be able to comment having never played the real deal but is there any possibility there are discrepancies between models? Hopefully cliff can chime in!
     
  7. #27 Rex, Dec 14, 2015
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    Cliff modeled a very sharp, very low-frequency peak in the speaker impedance curve, which is exactly what he measured on the real deal.
     
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    Interesting! Mine was the Matchless-modified Celestion Vintage 30, and the only mod to it was a proprietary treatment of the cone or cone edge. Is the measurement made based on the speaker, or the output transformer?

    Would you also happen to know about the 450Hz high pass filter in the power amp and the high cut/Onfb instead of a Brilliance control?
     
  9. Rex

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    It models the speaker impedance, so it's based on the speaker.

    The Low Cut (high pass) parameter is a function of the amp, not the speaker.

    "Hi Cut" is what the Presence control becomes when there's no negative feedback. Without a feedback loop, there can be no Presence or Depth circuit.
     
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    The amp has a Hi Cut but it's labeled Brilliance. It's wired backwards so turning it CW gets brighter.
     
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    Thx all for the tips !


    Just spent two hours with it paired with a PRS.
     
  12. rsf1977_again

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    I'd love to see some more Badcat models, this amp has a really unique vibe. It has pummeling tight low end, it's crystal clear and still aggressive. So damn good.
     
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    Wow!!!! The minor tweaks you suggest, really bring a nice roar to this amp!! I played a "real" bad cat a few years back, when I was stand-in in a local band, and when I did your tweak and put in my own cabs, it instantly took me back to all the wonderful memories from that tour!! It's def gonna be my new go-to amp for overdubs! Hint, a fuzz in front really exaggerates the roar in a kool way!!
     
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    I'll give that a shot!
     
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    Well, 1.06. Wow. This amp just got better. It sounds thicker and more aggressive. It's hard to describe, it's a beast, even more than before. I have instantly become a Badcat fan. I'd buy this amp tomorrow if there was a 100 watt version.
     
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    Love, love, love this amp. Try it with any of ML Labs AC-30 cabs and things get really nasty.
     
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    just updated to 1.06 and tried the model out and holy crap does it sound great. i used to be able to get the master to like....5 MAYBE before it got overly wooly and woofy. cranked it right up to 10 and it just got snarlier and snarlier, i think im love all over again hahaha. tried it with a fuzz face in the front to see how far off the edge i could push it and it was just something else man
     
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    Thanks for posting about this amp; I had tried this model a few times over various firmwares and it never stood out to me (which could have been due to poor IR selection on my part or a lack of effort in tweaking to get a good sound). I will echo the reviews in this thread describing tight low end and aggressive mids.

    I really liked what I was hearing (and feeling) in 1.05, and I posted a recording of some noodling with it over in the "Recordings" subforum.
    http://forum.fractalaudio.com/threa...st-drop-d-noodling-cleanish-and-heavy.107982/
     
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    What a great find! I switched the amp in my go-to high gain patch from a 5153 Red to the Hot Kitty, juiced the mids and wow what a great variation! Slightly less modern, and thicker. Thanks!
     
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    I got something right! Somebody write down the date:
     

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