Brucegregori
Experienced
Jc120 with a stomp will get you solid state sounding. Very early satch.
I had ground loop issues with my Stereo Engl setup but the Radial Stage Bug took care of it… Just another option.I use an EbTech hum elim. Works flawlessly...
What a nice multi layered pile of hogwash hodgepodgery.I've gotten the opposite response from a fairly knowledgeable amp tech in my area - they said that running any digital fx / digital distortion pedals will mangle the tube amps natural even order harmonics. My assumption is that fractal tube amp models are designed to output more even order harmonics, but what about the distortion pedals / running a clean patch, will that have any inherent effect? Not that I don't necessarily trust what you say random stranger on the internet, I'm just looking for more opinions / more in depth responses. and yeah ! thanks
Get a better informed tech. Tube’s even-order harmonics are the result of physics and removing physics is hard to do. I’m still working on anti-gravity and perpetual motion.I've gotten the opposite response from a fairly knowledgeable amp tech in my area - they said that running any digital fx / digital distortion pedals will mangle the tube amps natural even order harmonics.
I've gotten the opposite response from a fairly knowledgeable amp tech in my area - they said that running any digital fx / digital distortion pedals will mangle the tube amps natural even order harmonics. My assumption is that fractal tube amp models are designed to output more even order harmonics, but what about the distortion pedals / running a clean patch, will that have any inherent effect? Not that I don't necessarily trust what you say random stranger on the internet, I'm just looking for more opinions / more in depth responses. and yeah ! thanks
This is patently false.Your tech is partially correct. In distortion, tube amps create 2nd, 3rd and 4th (some) order harmonic content. The second order harmonics are what we all love to hear from our Marshalls. In general, digital equipment has a tendency to suppress second order harmonics.
So, if you are creating distortion harmonics at your pre-amp, and then insert digital into the Fx loop, you may lose some of the second order harmonic content. In this case, better to create your distortion at the power amp.
However, if you are creating distortion in the power amp section, but putting digital effects after, my guess is you have greater concerns than second order harmonics.
This is patently false.
First of all, we do NOT love second harmonics. Even-order harmonics are what creates "mud". Guitar distortion circuits produce far more odd harmonics than even. A small amount of even harmonics are desirable to give "warmth" but too much and the sound will be muddy and indistinct.
Secondly, digital equipment simply cannot "suppress second order harmonics". I can't even write anymore about that because the postulate is absurd.
A differential amplifier is analog so it has nothing to do with "digital equipment suppressing second order harmonics".I tend to like the first octave, so maybe I should have said "I, instead of "we". My bad.
Maybe you don't use them at all in your equipment (of which I was making no commentary, BTW), but my understanding is that differential amps, for example, not only cancel noise, but second order effects as well. How is that absurd?
A differential amplifier is analog so it has nothing to do with "digital equipment suppressing second order harmonics".
The statement implies that digital equipment can someone identify second order harmonics and selectively remove them, which is impossible and, hence, absurd.
A differential amplifier in a converter doesn’t remove existing second order harmonics on your signal generated by a tube amp for example. What is suppressed if perfectly matched are the even harmonics introduced by the amplifier in the converter itself. Which is a good thing in a high quality convertor as you don’t want any additional distortion added.Regardless, I still stand by the original intent of my post. If you like your even-order harmonics, you need to understand what equipment you are sticking in your signal chain.
A differential amplifier in a converter doesn’t remove existing second order harmonics on your signal generated by a tube amp for example. What is suppressed if perfectly matched are the even harmonics introduced by the amplifier in the converter itself. Which is a good thing in a high quality convertor as you don’t want any additional distortion added.
I had ground loop issues with my Stereo Engl setup but the Radial Stage Bug took care of it… Just another option.
Thank you so much!Hi- yes, SB-6