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Headphones with FM3, dirt = great, cleans <> great

mikeyg

Experienced
So after some time messing with the FM 3, using headphones, I'm finding the dirty sounds are great, but the cleans not at all.

The cleans are lifeless, they kinda go "plink' and die quickly. And they sound a bit warbly.

Adding a compressor helps a fair amount. The sustain comes back. Still, nowhere near what they are capable of.

Any ideas why? It's something mathematical I presume...
 

Rex

Legend!
So after some time messing with the FM 3, using headphones, I'm finding the dirty sounds are great, but the cleans not at all.

The cleans are lifeless, they kinda go "plink' and die quickly. And they sound a bit warbly.

Adding a compressor helps a fair amount. The sustain comes back. Still, nowhere near what they are capable of.

Any ideas why? It's something mathematical I presume...
There are multiple ways to interpret what you wrote, so I have to make some assumptions here... but check your settings on the noise gate.
 

chris

Legend!
So after some time messing with the FM 3, using headphones, I'm finding the dirty sounds are great, but the cleans not at all.

The cleans are lifeless, they kinda go "plink' and die quickly. And they sound a bit warbly.

Adding a compressor helps a fair amount. The sustain comes back. Still, nowhere near what they are capable of.

Any ideas why? It's something mathematical I presume...
have you tried cleans with a speaker of any type? any difference?

the Factory Presets should be set well for good levels and gates.

does the guitar you use have clean sounds on other gear that don't go plink?

this is hard to give the "right" answer immediately because we know so little about your setup and don't really know exactly what's happening.
 

Randalljax

Fractal Fanatic
I though the cleans on my AX3 were great
what kind of clean tone are you going after ?

i loved the Matchless and /13
with spring verb in front of the amp
i used the output compression gain enhancer to get it to edge of breakup
and then rolled off

i would also try studio monitors instead of headphones if you can
 

Patzag

Fractal Fanatic
So after some time messing with the FM 3, using headphones, I'm finding the dirty sounds are great, but the cleans not at all.

The cleans are lifeless, they kinda go "plink' and die quickly. And they sound a bit warbly.

Adding a compressor helps a fair amount. The sustain comes back. Still, nowhere near what they are capable of.

Any ideas why? It's something mathematical I presume...
Post the preset. Nothing to correct if no preset.
 

mikeyg

Experienced
I’m on the road. I’ll try to, but the cleans sound fine through my CLR, so it’s not the Fractal unit itself.

so why would dirty sounds translate well, but not cleans? Impedance?
 

mikeyg

Experienced
I though the cleans on my AX3 were great
what kind of clean tone are you going after ?

i loved the Matchless and /13
with spring verb in front of the amp
i used the output compression gain enhancer to get it to edge of breakup
and then rolled off

i would also try studio monitors instead of headphones if you can

Hmm, didn’t think to try a higher gain preset with the guitar volume rolled back. That could work...
 

chris

Legend!
I’m on the road. I’ll try to, but the cleans sound fine through my CLR, so it’s not the Fractal unit itself.

so why would dirty sounds translate well, but not cleans? Impedance?
high gain has more frequencies going on. maybe the headphones aren't translating everything well.
 

Ziyan

Member
So after some time messing with the FM 3, using headphones, I'm finding the dirty sounds are great, but the cleans not at all.

The cleans are lifeless, they kinda go "plink' and die quickly. And they sound a bit warbly.

Adding a compressor helps a fair amount. The sustain comes back. Still, nowhere near what they are capable of.

Any ideas why? It's something mathematical I presume...

What kind of headphones are you using? It sounds great through mine.
 

Chiguete

Experienced
So after some time messing with the FM 3, using headphones, I'm finding the dirty sounds are great, but the cleans not at all.

The cleans are lifeless, they kinda go "plink' and die quickly. And they sound a bit warbly.

Adding a compressor helps a fair amount. The sustain comes back. Still, nowhere near what they are capable of.

Any ideas why? It's something mathematical I presume...
So you got an FM3 with the headphones jack or are you doing a workaround because is one of the first production models that didn't come with it?
 

teddis

Fractal Fanatic
I have OUT1 going to my 6 channel mixer, which has a H/P hole.
All Presets sound just like Franks Utube video. I tried them side by side :)
 
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