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Wish Headphone-specific EQ

Marco C.

New Member
every headphone I used on my fm3 sounds too bright in comparison to any speakers (including frfr) attached to out1. The headphone jack Would greatly benefit from a specific eq to adapt its sound: as it is now I have not been able to enjoy it. Tried in-ear monitors of different brands, headphones from Akg, grado, sennheiser but it Is almost like if the cab sim is off (and it is not).
thank you, all the rest is great for me!!!
 

PdotCdot

Member
What kind of tones are you usually using? I have been 95% headphone as of late and could share some preset that I use that work for me. I agree with the extra bright eq in headphones vs frfr or monitors, but that’s not different than what you get with an actual mic’s cabinet. For what it’s worth, nothing on the market can beat the Fractal stuff for headphone enjoyment.
 

Marco C.

New Member
What kind of tones are you usually using? I have been 95% headphone as of late and could share some preset that I use that work for me. I agree with the extra bright eq in headphones vs frfr or monitors, but that’s not different than what you get with an actual mic’s cabinet. For what it’s worth, nothing on the market can beat the Fractal stuff for headphone enjoyment.
The extra-brightness is noticeable on every preset, mostly on Fender twin and double and clean presets in general, it is perhaps less of a problem (but far from ideal) in crunch tones while lead tones are again problematic. I solve it by adjusting specifically the eq of output1, but then I need to re-adjust the output1 eq each time I switch from headphone to external monitors. Output 1 and 2 have no channels to store a setting of the eq .....
I pair the FM3 with external near field monitors on out1 L&R, with an frfr cab I am testing in out2 L and with headphones in the headphone plug.
FM3 cleverly turns speakers off when I plug in the headphone, which means it does know headphones are connected: it could then be clever and switch output1 to the headphone eq automatically then ... ... I agree other products are totally unusable (for me) with headphones and FM3 is better, but better does not mean necessarily good enough for everyone. It could be much better with a specific eq.
 

Moke

Axe-Master
Vendor
Hmmm. I would say that the headphone sound is most likely more accurate. And your speakers (or more likely your room) have been lying to you??

How loud do you listen to the speakers vs the headphones?
 

Marco C.

New Member
Ops ...... no, it does not! When using speakers volume knob on fm3 is at max, while with headphone it is at 1/3 ..... so speakers are so quiet when headphone is on that nobody notices they are also on .... including me! sorry. Then if FM3 does not know what out1 is used solution could be to have 2 eq settings for out1 to be manually selected.
 

Marco C.

New Member
Hmmm. I would say that the headphone sound is most likely more accurate. And your speakers (or more likely your room) have been lying to you??

How loud do you listen to the speakers vs the headphones?
I thought this was the case, as I have a pair of very small EVE speakers that are not loud at all, while headphone volumes are higher but I found out - while testing a loud frfr cabinet with 600watts (Jad&Freer Paradigma) connected to out1 - that the sound is really good any volume and far away from the headphone with simitar perceived sound pressure. As the headphone is quite good in any other listening experience (Grado sr325e) and same issue is with the extra-flat Akg 550 or with several different in-ear monitors I tried to work with an eq block before out1 and improved a lot the result. Putting a block in each preset is not practical. Perhaps my problem is that I have never played with in-ear monitors before and when playing with headphones I was only using headphones on that setup, sound was built for it.
 

Tonedeaf

Inspired
One thing I learned is that headphone speakers, unlike guitar speaker, sound worse the more you you crank them. I'm very happy with my sound, but if I turn up the volume anywhere near the volume I listen to music to (very loud), my presets go to hell. I use Bowers & Wilkens cans.
 

cableguy

Inspired
I use AKG K240's which sound great to me. Not a top shelf set of cans to say the least, but they sound good to me. T+hey sound very similar to my FRFR cab. FWIW, most of my work is on bass, so it may be different for you 6 stringers. As a hack guitarist, the guitar sounds great through my cans.
 

unix-guy

Legend!
One thing I learned is that headphone speakers, unlike guitar speaker, sound worse the more you you crank them. I'm very happy with my sound, but if I turn up the volume anywhere near the volume I listen to music to (very loud), my presets go to hell. I use Bowers & Wilkens cans.
That might be Fletcher Munson as opposed to the speakers...
 
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