are you as loud as you would be with a real amp, or quieter?I think a lot of it has to do with me not being aware of the difference in the FRFR sound. I assumed I would be able to get all the cool tones I like hearing but it would feel bigger, etc. While the tones are possible, they are just more "contained" for lack of a better term. Through recording, as demonstrated above with the John Mayer clip, it can sound pretty damn close if not identical. But it won't feel "in the room" and its a completely different feel when playing.
Just something to get used to I guess.
are you as loud as you would be with a real amp, or quieter?
"in the room" typically comes from the sound bouncing around the room, which requires volume, that's all.That's another thing that may be a big factor. I got the Axe also for the ability for low volume playing while retaining good tones. a lot of my testing so far has been fairly low volume. If I were to crank the monitors it would probably feel much fuller. Thing is, that wouldn't be my normal playing volume. This is strictly a home recording/practice machine for me.
This ^^ is how I would go if I had to start over & was tight for cash. FRFR is not everybody's cup of tea and perhaps is not where sceptics (like me!) should start...Get a guitar cab and descent solid state amp and enjoy amp in the room. FRFR is a different animal.
It also requires a room. ;-) I.e. no headphones. Also, I would say if amp in the room is your thing it is worth considering using a real guitar cab and power amp rather than FRFR plus impulses. It is immediately authentic. You are limited to one cab but if you can deal with one cab and 200+ amp channels and tons of tone shaping and FX you are golden and it is zero effort."in the room" typically comes from the sound bouncing around the room, which requires volume, that's all.
That's all about volume. There's no escaping it. Cranked to gig levels, the Axe-Fx will make the room sing, and it'll feel like you're playing the room instead of the guitar. Back down to realistic apartment levels, and you lose that—but it still slays any "real" amp at the same volume.While the tones are possible, they are just more "contained" for lack of a better term...its a completely different feel when playing.
I don't want to be direct but the reason youre not impressed is because
1 your playing through headphones
and
2 your playing through a roland cube
The more I compare the Axe tones side by side with actual recorded tones on youtube, the more I realize that it really is very close if not identical. For example. I came across a video of slash demoing the AFD100 amp. I called that up, with a 4x12 marshall cab with V30's and some reverb. Set it using the same settings he would use, and it sounded identical.
It made me realize that the tones are authentic, it just isn't obvious at first for someone who has no experience playing while the sound is a miced guitar tone. At first, pulling up a marshall amp, one might say "that sounds nothing like a marshall" until you compare side by side with an actual miced marshall and then you realize....yeah.....that's the same sound.
..., it just isn't obvious at first for someone who has no experience playing while the sound is a miced guitar tone. At first, pulling up a marshall amp, one might say "that sounds nothing like a marshall" until you compare side by side with an actual miced marshall and then you realize....yeah.....that's the same sound.
Rich you sound like myself. I too only bought the Axe for bedroom production and noodling. I too have had a hard time finding something that compares to what I had before (Guitar Rig Pro), I too have tone matched John Mayers Belief from the Live in LA concert, I too dialled in the Slash amp and tried to copy his tone
We would all hate to see a new comer go so early but people do what they need to do.This things not cheap (especially in England for me)
Can I ask simply what your tone sounds like in your head?
Then can I ask what's actually missing from your Axe Sound?