Gibson Brands announced the end of Cakewalk

Stratman68 said:
Well, for me it's quite different. Did some research since my last post. I am in a home studio and besides my vocal tracks and my guitar tracks, everything else is midi and softsynths. So I really need a top notch midi program. From what I have read, Studio One Pro 3.5 is not heavy on midi. Supposedly Cubase and Sonar are tops for this.

My main concerns for Sonar come down to authorizing it and the many plugs purchased. That is what really sucks. I have a ton of softsynths ( I mean full paid for versions, not bundled stuff) so any daw is fine for me in that respect.

But trying to import a project from Sonar to anywhere when it's loaded with midi. audio, softsynths, tempo maps, volume maps, etc is near impossible. So they need to be recreated. Yikes.

I still will look at Presonus. I want to see the midi for myself.
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You just made me realize how tough it would be to move a majority of my SONAR projects to another DAW.

One of the features I like about Reaper is that you can create MIDI maps from text files, so I'm able to create them much faster than in SONAR.

I could get away with using SONAR X3 forever but I've saved a lot of my projects in newer versions of SPLAT which I don't think will open in X3.
 
Hey GMB,

I don't remember why but others have mentioned X3? I have the discs but does it not have to be authorized? Actually I have every disc going back to CWPA 9, includes every Sonar version except X2.. I guess I lost 6,7 and 8 somewhere along the line.
Like I stated, I do have a licensed copy of Reaper (thru 5.99). Just looks so foreign to me :)
 
Genghis said:
I use MIDI and soft synths quite a bit and I don't find Studio One to be lacking anything I need.

In fact, since they added the new latency optimization features it blows away anything else I've used. You essentially set your buffers as low as needed for running soft synths, and then set the protection setting to High or Maximum so that you are really only utulizing the low buffer setting on tracks that you are recording in real time. Other tracks play back with lower CPU since they don't use the low real-time latency. It syncs up well with what you are playing along with on soft synths, amp plugins, really anything you are monitoring thru plugins as you play or record them.
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I have a licensed copy of Studio Artist 2 somewhere. Ghengis, does it require a dongle, I mean 3.5 Pro? Stratman68 holds his breathe because he refuses to use dongles.....:)
 
Stratman68 said:
I have a licensed copy of Studio Artist 2 somewhere. Ghengis, does it require a dongle, I mean 3.5 Pro? Stratman68 holds his breathe because he refuses to use dongles.....:)
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No dongle used. Seems to be a pretty painless method as I recall.

See if they offer any upgrade path for you. They are having a sale now, and they mentioned on the Cakewalk forum that there may be a crossgrade deal coming to entice Cakewalk users. Cubase may have something coming as well. Looks like a lot of DAW makers are gonna try to swoop on this.
 
Genghis said:
No dongle used. Seems to be a pretty painless method as I recall.

See if they offer any upgrade path for you. They are having a sale now, and they mentioned on the Cakewalk forum that there may be a crossgrade deal coming to entice Cakewalk users. Cubase may have something coming as well. Looks like a lot of DAW makers are gonna try to swoop on this.
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No Dongle, I like that. I found my Studio One artist. Older than I thought. I did have it installed once. But now I get integrity errors...MArvelous. I do have my email from Presonus so maybe I'll shoot them an email.
Hmmmm! So glad I am a Fender guy............

Thanks for the info
 
Stratman68 said:
Hey GMB,

I don't remember why but others have mentioned X3? I have the discs but does it not have to be authorized? Actually I have every disc going back to CWPA 9, includes every Sonar version except X2.. I guess I lost 6,7 and 8 somewhere along the line.
Like I stated, I do have a licensed copy of Reaper (thru 5.99). Just looks so foreign to me :)
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SONAR X3 doesn't need online authorization. You just need to type the serial number and registration keys.

I have Cakewalk Pro Audio 7 to the last version of SPLAT except SONAR 7 is the only version I didn't buy bc it had a major bug since SONAR 5 when slip triming the beginning or ending of a MIDI clip. It was fixed in the last update for SONAR 7.

I was just going through all my old software discs and found my Sonic Foundry Sound Forge 5. That was another company that switched to online authorization right before being bought by Sony, so there was close to a year period where you couldn't activate a new install while they were transitioning. That's actually how I found out about keygens.

From now on I will never buy software that uses online authorization or a dongle unless I can also find a keygen or crack that will make my purchases sustainable.
 
GotMetalBoy said:
SONAR X3 doesn't need online authorization. You just need to type the serial number and registration keys.

I have Cakewalk Pro Audio 7 to the last version of SPLAT except SONAR 7 is the only version I didn't buy bc it had a major bug since SONAR 5 when slip triming the beginning or ending of a MIDI clip. It was fixed in the last update for SONAR 7.

I was just going through all my old software discs and found my Sonic Foundry Sound Forge 5. That was another company that switched to online authorization right before being bought by Sony, so there was close to a year period where you couldn't activate a new install while they were transitioning. That's actually how I found out about keygens.

From now on I will never buy software that uses online authorization or a dongle unless I can also find a keygen or crack that will make my purchases sustainable.
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I agree. Thanks for the X3 info. I have my disc, so just in case at Least i know I have that. Much easier than trying to i,port to a different program. I kow Splat won't open them, but with some modifications of the files it will. I mean I know I can learn new daw, but I just do not want to waste the time. At my age I would rather play,, write and record......................

Ok time to hit it............Later and thanks again.
 
A very knowledgable Sonar user posted this on the Sonar thread about this BS.

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"Sonar X3 and below was challenge and response (serial and register). Something that could be done offline.
in Sonar Platinum all you have to do is go to Help>About Sonar.
If your version says "Owned" then it wont matter if the servers go down. you own the product."

I bought the lifetime deal when it first came out and mine says Valid thru: (infinity sign) Status: Owned
If this is true I would be so happy.
 
dr bonkers said:
The debt needs to get black hole like gravity to force a leadership change by the debt holders.

Then perhaps we will see the end of this buying to shutter activity and see them develop the great stuff they bought and sat on like Opcode, Cakewalk, Steinberger, Modulus, Spector, etc.
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I didn't realize Gibson had bought Modulus and Spector. Major bummer.

Like a lot of people I started on Sonar and cut my teeth on it before switching to Pro Tools. It sucks to hear that Gibson is pulling the same tricks on Cakewalk that they have on Steinberger, Tobias, etc.
 
dr bonkers said:
The debt needs to get black hole like gravity to force a leadership change by the debt holders.

Then perhaps we will see the end of this buying to shutter activity and see them develop the great stuff they bought and sat on like Opcode, Cakewalk, Steinberger, Modulus, Spector, etc.
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I always wondered what happened to my beloved studio vision program....:..::::
 
Sad to see Cakewalk go. I started on it back in when it first became "Cakewalk Pro Audio" and followed through with most of the updates until the 11 Rack came out. After that I switched to Pro Tools, which is complete overkill for what I use it for.

I can't quite figure out what Gibson's approach is with acquiring these different brands. Do they buy a brand and kill it if it does not show an immediate profit within a pre-defined range?
 
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