Instead of reducing input gain you can increase the Compressor Threshold.
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Gain Enhancer Appreciation Thread
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greiswig
Power User
I did try that, but it seemed like it just changed the way it responded to how hard I played. I’ll give it a try again at your recommendation.
All it does is shift the curve. The compression ratio doesn't change so it's the same as lowering input gain.
greiswig
Power User
I figured that, but I think at default settings I am just always in the deeper part of the curve. I’ll tinker more tonight. But again, thanks for this feature! It’s worth whatever tinkering I have to do!
VegaBaby
Fractal Fanatic
that's why I said "added" to the Cab block
. of course I was thinking of the real cab folk as well .
Variable
Inspired
I made an Adam Jones patch recently since I'm on a Tool kick due to the Fear Inoculum release, and Gain Enhancer really gets me where I want to be, especially when rolling off the volume for those clean Les Paul treble pickup parts. A big part of Jones' sound is that cranked "amp is going to explode" verge of armageddon thing, and Gain Enhancer around 2 or 3 does a lot to help with that. I'll try to post my patch when I get home from work.
If anyone has any tips on how to turn the Plexi into a SuperBass in the Axe, that would be awesome So far I just turned off the bright cap, but wondering if there are more tweaks to get closer.
If anyone has any tips on how to turn the Plexi into a SuperBass in the Axe, that would be awesome
So far I just turned off the bright cap, but wondering if there are more tweaks to get closer.
giantslayer
Inspired
That makes some sense from a user standpoint, but I don't think it works from a technical standpoint. It basically has to add that signal back into the front end of the Amp block. Having it in the Amp block means everything is contained within that block. If the control is in the Cab block, then there are ways it could get weird/complicated. What if your amp is running into 2 cabs? What if two Amps are feeding into the same Cab?
Also keep in mind there are other speaker characteristics that are modeled in the Amp block currently, like the Impedence mismatch and Speaker Resonance. It's done that way because it works better from a technical standpoint, even though it logically seems like a Cab characteristic.
I definitely agree with the general sentiment that this feels like a really important, fundamental function that should be more visible/accessible than other deep editing parameters in the Amp block.
I think it might be cool to have a global offset control, similar to what we have for Reverb, noise gate, etc. That way you could map that control to Perform tab and adjust all your amp blocks/channels with one knob on the fly to suit the venue.
jon
Fractal Fanatic
Now THIS would be cool!
greiswig
Power User
Tried. Liked. Problem solved. Now I see why others were liking the compression amount at around 4 for some amps. I still seem to prefer it at 2-3, but adjusting the threshold gets me back my gain control. Thank you!
ruso
Fractal Fanatic
Resurrecting this thread...
I was messing around with Output Compression/Gain Enhancer this evening just to add a little something something to my AC-20 patch and wow! I recently installed a long overdue treble bleed circuit to my Tele and the Gain Enhancer really gives you a ton of control when finessing the volume knob to go between a clean, edge of breakup, and all out balls. God I love this machine!
I was messing around with Output Compression/Gain Enhancer this evening just to add a little something something to my AC-20 patch and wow! I recently installed a long overdue treble bleed circuit to my Tele and the Gain Enhancer really gives you a ton of control when finessing the volume knob to go between a clean, edge of breakup, and all out balls. God I love this machine!
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Joe Bfstplk
Axe-Master
It also does a good job on lead sounds to get that "air frying" midrange on lead sounds with dirtier amps. I use it at about 2 for those, and at about 1 for cleaner sounds, just to get a little of that "playing loud" feel/sound going.
ruso
Fractal Fanatic
Yeah, I’m going to experiment a little on my gig presets.
Chewie5150
Fractal Fanatic
So I've only had my Axe III since late December and haven't even looked at or known of gain enhancer yet. There's still so much to unpack and now Cygnus is around the corner.
mattgreenrocks
Inspired
I love this setting. Thanks for resurrecting the thread.
giantslayer
Inspired
I've gotten great results with the default parameters and just putting it on like .5. I do that on every tone without even thinking or trying to "dial it in." Super easy. Give it a try!
ruso
Fractal Fanatic
Love the Herbie CH3. Trying adjusting the Cathode Follower Compression to make it sound less compressed and more organic.
KyleHowdy
Inspired
Thanks for the recommendation, will try that this evening!