FRFR Coax monitor opinion

BIGDOG

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Could one of our fine FRFR experts please look over the specs for this .:: VTC Pro Audio - C4 ::.
And give an opinion on it for use as frfr solution.
I know one would have to hear it for an accurate opinion.
But does it meet the specs of an frfr coax monitor that would make it worth looking into.



Thanks
 
Specs look very promising and a very healthy price tag also. The chassis design looks like the ones used in the RCF nx 15-SMA. I think a test drive would be in order.
 
Hey BIGDOG,

I was looking into these also at one time but they are passive and would not work for me. I believe Long and McQuade has them in their deal centre right now : )
 
The problem I see with theses speakers is that you need to add an out board amp and the "recommend" outboard processing. At $1,000 for the passive box... there are other solutions out there that already sound great in this price range and are much smaller an lighter.
 
I have a matrix gt800fx, would it be sufficient to run one in bridged mode
 
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This is the responce I received from yorkville


Not only is the VTC C4 VERY flat in its frequency response, it has a 60 by 60 Coaxial dispersion pattern which makes it very “coherent” when walking side to side from the speaker. Essentially, no matter where you walk around the speaker, you will hear it the same side to side, top to bottom within its range.

You do not need a separate processor as the C4 will go down to 40hz. 60hz is the recommended crossover, but without a processor it will naturally produce more bass. A low E on a guitar is around 80hz. 60hz is close to Dropped Ab on a guitar, so this speaker will handle even the most extreme low tunings.
 
this a powered wedge at that price?
I'd love to hear some reviews of an Axe Fx thru one of these.
could be a new player in the field?
 
The C5 is 62lbs!
In my experience, wood enclosures always sound best. But "generally" you have to deal with a heavier solution.
 
Nope, it's passive. The ad copy is a bit misleading; I had to look at the service manual to determine for sure that it wasn't powered.

On the same page linked in the OP it notes the nominal impedance, or "Ohms". You won't see that if it's active/powered. A sure fire sign is that it has Speakon NL4 Connectors. It's practically guaranteed that it's passive if it has speakon connectors.
 
The C5 is 62lbs!
In my experience, wood enclosures always sound best. But "generally" you have to deal with a heavier solution.

Yeah thats why I looked at maybe getting 2 x C4's, and they would pretty much cover everything I need Guitar Rig, Bass Rig and PA
and the C4 is 45lbs, a little easier to manage.
 
On the same page linked in the OP it notes the nominal impedance, or "Ohms". You won't see that if it's active/powered. A sure fire sign is that it has Speakon NL4 Connectors. It's practically guaranteed that it's passive if it has speakon connectors.

They are passive Ive been corresponding with Yorkville Product specialist and my matrix 800 will power 2 with no problem at all.
 
On the same page linked in the OP it notes the nominal impedance, or "Ohms". You won't see that if it's active/powered. A sure fire sign is that it has Speakon NL4 Connectors. It's practically guaranteed that it's passive if it has speakon connectors.
You're right, only Speakons are listed on that page. And it does give a nominal impedence. But the ad copy itself is misleading, with things like "Capable of delivering 1080 watts" (only amplifiers can deliver power—should have been "Capable of handling 1080 watts") and "Active/passive bypass switch" (there is no active bypass in the speaker—if there were, it would be a powered speaker). It took a trip to the service manual to confirm which part of the page to believe.
 
You're right, only Speakons are listed on that page. And it does give a nominal impedence. But the ad copy itself is misleading, with things like "Capable of delivering 1080 watts" (only amplifiers can deliver power—should have been "Capable of handling 1080 watts") and "Active/passive bypass switch" (there is no active bypass in the speaker—if there were, it would be a powered speaker). It took a trip to the service manual to confirm which part of the page to believe.


"Active" is used in a sense of biamped after an active crossover, not active as in powered. Just like the difference between "powered" speakers and "Active" speakers. Active speakers feature two amps and an active crossover, while powered speakers are single amped with a passive crossover, like the Kustoms that were so popular last year.

Speakons are speakons. As soon as you see those in the spec sheet, they are automatically passive speakers. There's no mention of XLR's or 1/4" inputs.

Here's the feature list:
Features:
1080 Watts Continuous Power Handling
• Coherent Wavefront Single Source Design
• Works as Monitor, Side, Front-of-House or Center-fill Applications
• Full 60º x 60º Coverage from 2.5" Titanium Diaphragm Horn
• Passive/Active Switch for Full Range or Bi-amped Operation
• 5/8" (15mm) 11-ply Russian Birch Plywood Cabinet
• Two All-metal Speaker Stand Adaptors
• Heavy Gauge Perforated All-Metal Grille
• Integrated Handles
• Rugged Nylon Glides

I realize it says "delivers' later on, but many more clues to suggest it is passive

n Active / Passive Bypass Switch on the input panel allows the VTC C4 enclosure to run as a full range cabinet with its internal passive crossover network, making it ideal for repeater and side fill applications where quick plug and play connection to a single amp channel is required.

Yes, a little confusing, I admit I had to read a bit closer on the page, but it was all right there on that page in the OP. Just some tips gained in many years of reading through speaker product manuals. Cheers!
 
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