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Fractal Audio AMP models: 5F1 Tweed and 5F1 Tweed EC (Fender Champ and Vibro-Champ)

Discussion in 'Axe-Fx II Discussion' started by yek, Feb 22, 2016.

  1. #1 yek, Feb 22, 2016
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    yek

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    I'm adding information to the wiki about the amp models all the time. While on it, why not put the models into the spotlight? So starting today: a series of threads, focussing on all amp models. Frequency: maybe a thread a day, maybe not, we'll see how it goes. I'll just follow the order of the models in the hardware and wiki. The information is derived from this wiki page. If the information is not correct, just reply and I'll use it to update the wiki, so it works both ways.

    * EDIT: Up-to-date information is available in Yek's Guide to the Fractal Audio Amplifier Models *
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    5F1 Tweed: based on Fender Tweed Champ

    The 5F1 Tweed model is based on a Fender Champ from the Tweed era.

    The Tweed era is the earliest period of Fender amplification (late '40s - early 60s'), before the Blonde, Brownface, Blackface and Silverface models. Very collectible amplifiers. "Tweed" is based on the cloth covering used at that time, as seen in the picture above. Tweed amplifiers typically break up earlier than later "cleaner" models and are known for their warm-sounding overdrive. More information.​

    The Fender Champ was originally marketed as a practice / student amp with only 5 watts output. This specific model has a simple 5F1 circuit, which was produced between '58 and '64 and is the most famous Champ circuit. It's Class-A, single-ended: one 6V6 power tube.

    The low output and small 1x8" speaker make the amp break up very early. The tiny speaker also makes it sound boxy. Crank the volume and you understand immediately what the expression "farty bassnotes" mean. Nevertheless, the Champ was a popular amp for use in recording studios. Eric Clapton's Layla and Joe Walsh's Rocky Mountain Way were recorded through a Champ, allegedly.

    It just has a single Volume control. There are no tone knobs or other controls. If authenticity matters to you, stick to adjusting Input Drive.

    The Champ provides a High and a Low input to plug the guitar into. Axe-Fx II models of Fender amps are always based on the High input. To get the equivalent of using the Low input, set Input Trim to 0.500.

    Select one of the "1x8" stock cabs for authenticity. This wiki page lists the stock 1x8" cabs.

    A selection of YouTube videos:





     
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  2. scottburrow

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    Brilliant! thanks for doing this Yek. Awesome idea!
     
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    Great idea, and well executed.
     
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    Awesome idea
     
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    A resurrection of the old AOTW threads too! Great idea, appreciate the hard work Yek.
     
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    I like to use this through a real 412 greenback cab. Great rock tone, better than the Marshalls, if tightness is not required.
     
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    Thanks Yek. The YouTube videos are a nice extra!
     
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    Cool thread!
     
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    This is Great!! Thanks Yek!!
     
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    Awesome. The vids are a cool idea, too.
     
  11. Scary

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    This amp has character that stands out IMO. It's rude and unclean but thick and hearty at the same time.
     
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    Where would you leave the other knobs (bass, mid, treble, presence, bright switch) in this case?
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  13. #13 yek, Feb 22, 2016
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    At default.

    Default = the position of the controls after resetting the Amp block.

    Resetting on the Axe-Fx II means double-tapping Bypass on the hardware, or clicking Block > Initialize in Axe-Edit.
    Resetting on the AX8 means pressing Shift - 2x Edit, or clicking Block > Initialize in AX8-Edit.
     
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    Love this sort of info! Thanks Yek!
     
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    That's what I assumed, but I figured it was better to ask and be sure. Thanks! :D
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    You are the best Yek! Much appreciated
     
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    Great idea.

    Can we limit the kudos to just liking the OP vs. new posts?

    It would be cool if the majority of posts were about the actual amp or suggestions about using the amp model vs. pages of thanks you's :)
     
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    thanks, nice write-up.
     
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    and I just got rid of my GAS for a Fender strat ,(bought a PS3 instead for some racing )......and then you bring this kind of nice sounds......^^^^ :(:(:(:(:(

    Great Vids !!
     
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    Every guitar player should have at least one strat in his guitar collection. ;-)

    Anyway, IMHO one should not use a Gibson with a Champ. The Champ can't handle the input signal. You get this tone:

     

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