FM3 Freezing using FM3-Edit and converting patches

Tplesko

Tplesko

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Hi all, this is the 4th Fractal product I have had and I have never had an issue with the unit freezing. The use case is that I am converting AX8 files (and a few Axe III patches) using Fractool and, regardless of size, after a few seconds or a minute the FM3 locks up and FM3 Edit sits on "Communicating" for a while before it times out. Some of these are very simple patches and the unit actually has frozen on me just playing a time or two, which is unnerving. Any thoughts or ideas? Reset to factory (I dont prefer to do this as I will have a lot of cab imports to do again, but I can if that will help)?
 
Are you on the latest 3.01 firmware and latest FM3 edit ? Very importanot.

I don’t use fractool....can’t comment on that.
 
teddis said:
Are you on the latest 3.01 firmware and latest FM3 edit ? Very importanot.

I don’t use fractool....can’t comment on that.
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Yes indeed, 3.01 and newest FM3 Edit....I am beginning to believe it is when I convert large patches mostly, ones over 85% or so of CPU. We dont have an online edit capability so I am unsure of there best way to trim these down, then convert, then import into FM3. Never had this issue before with the AX8.....
 
Perhaps there's a reason Fractal hasn't developed or released a preset conversion tool to transfer presets between devices? It seems a lot of issues users have with the FM3 comes down to using converted presets, especially between devices with different modelling algorithms.
 
Tplesko said:
Hi all, this is the 4th Fractal product I have had and I have never had an issue with the unit freezing. The use case is that I am converting AX8 files (and a few Axe III patches) using Fractool and, regardless of size, after a few seconds or a minute the FM3 locks up and FM3 Edit sits on "Communicating" for a while before it times out. Some of these are very simple patches and the unit actually has frozen on me just playing a time or two, which is unnerving. Any thoughts or ideas? Reset to factory (I dont prefer to do this as I will have a lot of cab imports to do again, but I can if that will help)?
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Yup, I had that happen yesterday when trying to get some old presets onto the FM3. The unit was still responsive though, but I had to reboot it to get FM3-Edit to work again. FracTool didn’t convert the patches properly or the scenes. I’ve given up on converting presets for now.
 
I simply avoided doing this and recreated what I did in the Axe III to my FM3 via the editor. Had both units on and put them both into view in open windows. I simply hard copied each preset and parameter I was using in real time. A bit tedious but once done, all good now. I haven't experienced any lockups or freeze ups as of yet.
 
PBGas said:
I simply avoided doing this and recreated what I did in the Axe III to my FM3 via the editor. Had both units on and put them both into view in open windows. I simply hard copied each preset and parameter I was using in real time. A bit tedious but once done, all good now. I haven't experienced any lockups or freeze ups as of yet.
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I never had an older unit so I can't view the patches prior to converting them.
 
Mr.Modeler said:
I never had an older unit so I can't view the patches prior to converting them.
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I can see why then. Not easy starting everything over. I hate to say it but you would probably be the safest to reset everything. Is there a way you can see the settings in your patches that are on there now and make note of things? It's a pain but at least you may have something to work with.
 
PBGas said:
I can see why then. Not easy starting everything over. I hate to say it but you would probably be the safest to reset everything. Is there a way you can see the settings in your patches that are on there now and make note of things? It's a pain but at least you may have something to work with.
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Partly, the scenes didn’t convert and everything at the far ends of the chain got deleted.
 
PBGas said:
I simply avoided doing this and recreated what I did in the Axe III to my FM3 via the editor. Had both units on and put them both into view in open windows. I simply hard copied each preset and parameter I was using in real time. A bit tedious but once done, all good now. I haven't experienced any lockups or freeze ups as of yet.
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Yep, that is the scenario I am lookin at also....thanks for the reply,
 
I'm curious if it is even worth trying to convert AX8 presets. I was on the FM3 waitlist for well over a year and was very much on the fence about ordering it when my unit became available, but when I got it I was surprised how much better it sounded than my AX8. I feel the modelling has moved on and that AX8 patches would need to be tweaked so much that it would probably be easier just to start from scratch?
 
blackmoreguitar said:
I'm curious if it is even worth trying to convert AX8 presets. I was on the FM3 waitlist for well over a year and was very much on the fence about ordering it when my unit became available, but when I got it I was surprised how much better it sounded than my AX8. I feel the modelling has moved on and that AX8 patches would need to be tweaked so much that it would probably be easier just to start from scratch?
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You're right. With all the modeling improvements, presets imported from the AX8 will probably need adjustment.
 
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