Close, his formula is Fender tube + solid state, preferably a Deluxe and a Polytone, setup in dual mono, but I've seen videos with him using Twins and Jazz Choruses. He was in town here recently and borrowed my Deluxe and Polytone and it sounded incredible! Benson does something similar with a Twin and a Jazz Chorus, if I'm not mistaken.@abendJazz Jonathan Kreisberg has a killer sound as well and he's using a 175 into a deluxe I believe.
I'm mainly a jazz guitarist and use the Fm3. There's lots of amp in the Fractal that can be used as jazz amps, you just have to find the right settings for you and the right IRs. I don't prefer the typical old school jazz sound, but like many jazz guitarists i like the fender sound.
So princetons, Twin reverbs and deluxe reverbs are all great jazz amps with the right settings in my opinion.
Actually many jazz recordings from the 50s used the tweed deluxe. The well known jazz record producer Rudy Van Gelder had a tweed deluxe in his studio that many guitarists like Grant Green and other used. The trick is to find the right settings.
Barney Kessel used a Gibson Scout if i'm not mistaken. That amp is also in the Fm3.
My prefered amp in the Fm3 for the moment is the Princeton AA964. Here's an video i recorded with that amp model:
It's also possible as others has mentioned to not use an amp block.
The guitarist in this video uses just a compressor block, Eq block, reverb, delay and ir.
Okay, so jazz musicans, that I assure you they usually play thru an amp, dont need any modeler...The thing is, the majority of the sound is not the amp. It’s the guitar and the hands. Great jazz playing has occurred with Teles and Les Pauls, various ES-type guitars, acoustics with sound hole pickups, nylon and gut string guitars, round-wound and flat-wound strings, 8”, 10”, 12” and 15” speakers, tubes, transistors and ICs, and they all worked because the person attached to the hands holding the guitar also turned the knobs and then played in a way that made the listener happy.
It’s not the amp model, it’s the person turning the knobs and vibrating the strings. The rest is just whatever was there.
Something that I learned early on with the Fractals was that some of the most beautiful cleans came from amps that are “known” for rock and roll, but the knobs were adjusted for a clean sound. Some of the most famous rock, blues, and arguably jazz, amps were designed and built by a guy, Howard Dumble, who was known for going for a high-fidelity sound. We can’t, and shouldn’t assume what an amp can do.
...you, who? did I call you or such?Rule 17:
You're not the boss of me.
You still have not posted a clip of your tone with the sound you like. Why don't you? Then you can get help instead of an argument. (Or are you looking for an argument?)Okay, so jazz musicans, that I assure you they usually play thru an amp, dont need any modeler...
Sorry, It's unaccurate. Jazz musicans DO play thru amplifiers that are all but trasparent, but have a Jazz charachter (that I tried to describe many time here in the forum, without success). These amplis are just 'not distorted', not uncolored, and the references amps are:
Polytone, from 70's on
Henriksen, for nowadays
They DO color the sound in a jazz way.
Using stuff for rock'n' roll just in the clean area, isnt a solution, it's just a turnaround with poor results.
I must admit that I'm getting more and more suprised about how 'easy' are rock players on jazz tone, I wonder myself if they're so easy about their sound (read 'clean is clean, distortion is distortion', and that's it) why the hell are there 100's models of exactly the same amp...
And no, I'm not into a special fancy personal unheard jazz tone, I'm JUST and ONLY talking about tha classical tone every player has in mind when thinkng to jazz, after the tone of the great classical jazz guitarists. The ones people talks about here, such as Stern, Lage, or such, THOSE are special, fancy, rock-ish tone.
I insist on this: would you ever say to a rock player: if you're into metal, forget your quest for tone and play any chorused clean tone, I know many intros from Metallica with that sound, so that's the sound of metal...
Bernstein has a wonderful tone! Love it!@abendJazz Is there a specific player you are trying to emulate? One of my favorite guitar players is Peter Bernstein and he gets a wonderful sound with his Zeidler into a Fender - I've seen him use a vintage Vibrolux live and it was phenomenal tone. Tom Ollendorf is another killer player and uses a Moffa archtop into Carr Sportsman (sort of a Fender Princeton with a master volume). Jonathan Kreisberg has a killer sound as well and he's using a 175 into a deluxe I believe.
I couldnt post link (new member). I will asapYou still have not posted a clip of your tone with the sound you like. Why don't you? Then you can get help instead of an argument. (Or are you looking for an argument?)
Thanks for your contribution, very useful since you're already using it!Honestly, I plug my hollow body into the Fm3, vibroluxe with ya 1x10 ir, a bit of compression and reverb. You can push the vibroluxe too if you need bite out of it. The choice of mics helps too depending what you’re looking for.
Semi hollow guitar… I like the two rock a lot with the ya creamback 65 ir.
But still, I can’t tell from the op whether he’s using it and judging it as an amp in the room w/frfr, or recording with it. Two very different situations.
ernstein has a wonderful tone! Love it!
Just...you dont get that sound from an archtop straight into fender amp, you get a mid-lacking sound with excess of high and bass and 'break-up edge' or sag note attack (sorry I dont know how to say it better in english).
Would be interesting to know how he can get that tone, but I'm definitively sure that the tones recorded in his albums' tracks get a good amount of processing on the board or in mix
I am not a purist by any means and I will play whatever I'm getting paid to play.
I think the frustration that electric guitarists who play genres other than rock or pop may feel is the bias that most tools have for those genres.
It may just be a "tyranny of the majority" sort of issue.
thanks for all the tips about amps, I'll try them asap.Gorgeous.