Let them make 6 and 12 first, so far those aren’t ready either.
Are there per-scene footswitches? If so that would mean that the footswitches are assignable per scene and that increases the number of footswitches per preset without the need of tapdancing.
My comments are not criticism of the controllers that FAS has announced, it's more my "wish list item", Cliff @FractalAudio can take it for what it is - a wish and a free focus group interview - seems there are quite a few of us who would really like to buy a FAS controller, but rationally or irrationally would prefer a different format of said controller and are contemplating whether other controllers would suit us more than the FC-6 and FC-12.
I realize that we might not know or grasp all of what the FAS FC series can do, buy being familiar with the LF+12+ series midi FC's and the Helix switching as well, I think I know that 3 or 4 rows work better for my workflow.
I want a FAS FC, but ideally a 3 or 4 row one to reduce/minimize paging during live performance, that's all.
I'll (try to) get off Cliffs case now and see what FAS brings to market
I'd be more than happy with an "fc16", in a 2 x 8 layout.
Honestly, the best form factor I've experienced is the Gordius Big Little Giant.
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The combination of staggered buttons and putting some on an angle really helps with not hitting the wrong button.
Apparently the button layout is mapped to the black and white keys of a keyboard, which is weedy there is some unused "space" on the upper row.
The editor itself I liked, but some of the methods are little less than intuitive! I emailed Xavier many times for explanations when I couldn't get things working... and I am a very experienced tech guy!I had this one for a long time. the form factor is good but build quality was not really good and the editor was really shitty.
But the angle really helped but i would have made the upper row on a slight angle too because it felt not that great if it is that flat.
So, FC12 is enough ... but to be honest - FC18 or FC21 could be better, for me of course.
In FC12 there are conectors for 4 external switches and 4 expression pedals.
FC12 + 4 extarnal switches makes total 16 switches.
Personally, I will not use 4 expression pedals, only 1 for volume, maybe second for whammy.
I would be great function to be able to use free expression pedals connectors for the next switches.
So, if I need only 2 expression pedals, this allows to connect 4 + 4 switches. FC12 + 8 = 20.
And, if I need none expression pedal connected to FC, than 4 + 8 = 12. FC12 + 12 = 24.
There are 2 expression pedals connectors on Axe FX III, too.
Another way to increase number of available switches is special expender. Special - it means not second FC12 or FC6.
It could be 1 row of 6 switches witch LCD stripes. There is no main LCD need.
Expander like thist could be put above FC12 and might work with (and even look) like FC18.
Plus external switches.
Of course, it's just an idea only
but you don't have any status leds on those switches! Don't you?
Almost certainly not... External switches are just connected via TRS cables, so how would that be done?OK, I didn't know that the MFC 101 external switches can't show their status via led, but FC is a whole new device and by the time we there isn't full specification or owner manual, I hope that ext sw in FC will be able to work with status led.
Almost certainly not... External switches are just connected via TRS cables, so how would that be done?
Interesting... But that means those devices are sending power over the cable, too... Unless your switches have a battery? Because an LED needs power.Footswitch is connected to my amp via TRS cable (stereo), I can change 2 channels and turn on / off the reverb. And there are two leds on it which show actual status of channels and the reverb. And it works.
Another example is RJM Music Mastermind GT. This is from manual, page 25:
The Mastermind GT supports up to four external switches. These can be used to add switches to remote locations, to
add different types of switches for specialized functions like tap tempo, or simply to increase the number of available
There are two external switch jacks on the rear of the Mastermind GT labeled “Switch 1/2” and “Switch 3/4". Each jack
can take a single switch or a double switch with a TRS (tip-ring-sleeve) plug. A single switch should use a TRS plug with
the switch connected to the tip and ground, and the ring conductor unconnected to anything. External switches need
to be momentary and normally open. Latching switches will not work correctly. If an LED is wired in parallel with the switch
with the cathode connected to the shield of the TRS connector, the Mastermind GT will light the LED when the switch is on. Setting the external switches works the same way as setting a button on the controller. You use the Edit Buttons function to edit the button parameters, as described in the Editing Buttons section. Just press the external switch when prompted to select a button. External switches can change from page to page just like a normal button, so please be aware of which button page you’re on when editing external switches.
I don't own the MFC 101 but I belive this is impossible with it.
No offense, looks like a foot stompin' nightmare. 3 rows maybePlease, don't pay attention to the bad photoshop skills (I just did that quickly to explain what I meant in previous messages), but here's how I could imagine a FC12 with a FC12EX (Expansion), where we could just "slide" one into each other, but some screws and make it "one".
THAT... would probably already work way better for me.
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Every TRS footswitch/exp pedal connector sends power over the cable, voltage is what the device needs to "read" the state or position of the pedal.Interesting... But that means those devices are sending power over the cable, too... Unless your switches have a battery? Because an LED needs power.