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Wish External Latching footswitches

agree

  • yes

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • no

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Total voters
    4

fsharpminor

Inspired
Right now, if you have an external switch going to an input, preset changes do not return it to its 'off' value when you change preset. i.e if I have a latching switch controlling a null filter for a volume boost, the boost will remain on when you change preset, even if you set up the preset and saved it with an 'off' value. Doesnt make sense to work like this, and makes it annoying when using it for live.

any one else agree?
 

lqdsnddist

Axe-Master
Everything you say is true and that is why people don’t really use latching switches. They are mechanical and the switch is closed or open. There is no way for the Ax8 to unlatch it or change its state.

Use a momentary switch, which is at least in the correct state upon preset changes or one of the internal switches which can reflect the state upon a preset change and visually display the status correctly.

Don’t really understand what your wish or poll is even for exactly to be honest
 

lqdsnddist

Axe-Master
The point is that the AX8 doesn't care about the current state of a latching switch when loading a new preset although it technically could.

How can it know/poll the correct state for a mechanical switch though across preset changes ?

If you have the switch engage an effect when closed, and you step on it and close it, being by nature latching, it remains closed.

Change preset and the switch still is going to be closed, again as it’s mechanical, and you’d need a way to physically unlatch it.

As stated, this is why people don’t really use mechanical latching switches. They are always going to reflect the wrong state half of the time.

A switch like on the FC is “smart” and can act as a momentary or latching, plus is able to correctly poll and display the correct state across preset changes, but a basic “dumb” mechanical switch can’t do that.
 

ChristThePhone

Fractal Fanatic
How can it know/poll the correct state for a mechanical switch though across preset changes ?
Just let the AX8 read the current port value. It's a latching switch so it will report the correct value.

If you have the switch engage an effect when closed, and you step on it and close it, being by nature latching, it remains closed.

Change preset and the switch still is going to be closed, again as it’s mechanical, and you’d need a way to physically unlatch it.
That's exactly why the AX8 could rely on the value it reads from the port. The OP wants to have the switch controlling the same block in all his presets. Switching from one preset to another should maintain the state of the block as set by the external latching switch.

As stated, this is why people don’t really use mechanical latching switches. They are always going to reflect the wrong state half of the time.
Not if the AX8 wouldn't ignore the current setting of the external switch.

A switch like on the FC is “smart” and can act as a momentary or latching, plus is able to correctly poll and display the correct state across preset changes, but a basic “dumb” mechanical switch can’t do that.
One can turn a momentary switch into a latching switch using software, true. But this shouldn't hinder the usage of a latching switch.
 

lqdsnddist

Axe-Master
How would you know if the switch was on or off though when you changed presets ?

I used to have a couple of Boss latching switches which even had status LED’s but the big issue was the switch could show closed, LED on, but the associated effect would bypassed, so you’d have to turn it off, change to a preset that you knew started with it off, and then it would correctly reflect the state of the effect, but it was very easy to get it wrong.

As such, I only use momentary switches as they will reflect the ‘correct’ state across any preset as you always know they are open unless your holding it down.

Was the same on the MFC
 

ChristThePhone

Fractal Fanatic
How would you know if the switch was on or off though when you changed presets ?
Just read the value from the port. It reflects the current state of the switch. It would also require to let the modifier of a block react on the current value read from the port and not expect a falling or rising edge to react.
 
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