Legacy EVH vs EVH (AxeFXII vs TSE X50)

DropTheSun said:
Thanks!
Try these samples one more time, if you have the time:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Juggernaut DI 1.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Juggernaut DI 2.wav

I use Mayones Regius 6 w/ Juggernaut pickups, so i guess these should sound ok.

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I recorded the same riff with my Les Paul w/ BKP Nailbomb pickups:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Nailbomb DI 1.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Nailbomb DI 2.wav

If these sound bad... i don't know what i'm doing wrong here?
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Thx for the other samples, will try it out later for fun, i have to say iam not a pro recording engineer! I only thought your played in dry clips don't fit so well or sound different when reamping to my own Axe-Fx preset and IR that i worked out for recording with my ESP V-II / wth EMG 81, would need adjusting the preset of course
:)

I had to resample it to 48 kHz by import in PT, only to info, I put the reamped DI 1 hard panned to the Left and DI 2 to the right Mono, a few copy,cuts/fades to the clips and bounced it straight to MP3 stereo interleaved with 320 kbits 44,100 Khz 16 bit format. Do you work analog to a other interface? I keep my dry clips at 48 khz because i work in that sample rate anyway with the Axe II interface/playback engine. Iam just very interested! Haha
 
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I tried all of the TSE stuff, and while its great, its not even close to the axe fx as far as feel is concerned. There is definitely something wrong with the IR in the axe fx example. Honestly though, what sold me on the AFX2 was the difference in how it felt to play rather than the sound. To me the TSE, along with the earlier Line 6 modelling, Revalver, Amplitube, ect., makes my guitar feel "stiff" for lack of a better word.
 
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I agree with you Toolfanem. The Axe FX II sounds and feels amazing. I re-amped tracks for both sims and was first little suprised that the X50 sounded "better". But it clearly was a bad IR, that somehow made AFX sound bad in this comparison.
 
DropTheSun said:
Thanks!
Try these samples one more time, if you have the time:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Juggernaut DI 1.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Juggernaut DI 2.wav

I use Mayones Regius 6 w/ Juggernaut pickups, so i guess these should sound ok.

Edit:

I recorded the same riff with my Les Paul w/ BKP Nailbomb pickups:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Nailbomb DI 1.wav
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/Nailbomb DI 2.wav

If these sound bad... i don't know what i'm doing wrong here?
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Well, I don't think i find the time to try the others at the moment, sorry. Your playing is very good man! The only absolute wrong was the cab IR like you already know, hope you'll get a better from them when you payed for it!!! Everything factory in the Axe-Fx II is amazing i would say. :-D
 
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Ironwill said:
Thx for the other samples, will try it out later for fun, i have to say iam not a pro recording engineer! I only thought your played in dry clips don't fit so well or sound different when reamping to my own Axe-Fx preset and IR that i worked out for recording with my ESP V-II / wth EMG 81, would need adjusting the preset of course
:)

I had to resample it to 48 kHz by import in PT, only to info, I put the reamped DI 1 hard panned to the Left and DI 2 to the right Mono, a few copy,cuts/fades to the clips and bounced it straight to MP3 stereo interleaved with 320 kbits 44,100 Khz 16 bit format. Do you work analog to a other interface? I keep my dry clips at 48 khz because i work in that sample rate anyway with the Axe II interface/playback engine. Iam just very interested! Haha
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Ok! Yeah, if you use "EMG patch" with my DI track, it will sound very different. I have one guitar with Blackouts pickups and i always make own patches for it.

I asked you to try those new DI tracks of mine, 'cause i thought that my re-amping had something wrong. I haven't done it much and i thought that the dry tracks had something weird going on (too thin or something). I usually just dial a tone i like and record with that sound. I connect AFXII to computer using USB. I don't use any other interfaces for recording guitars/bass.
 
I tried the Jaggernaut clips out a little then i had to go. mm I thought it sound alright,what i saw was your dry clips are stereo, it work well for reamping, i actually run mine Mono always, so i set the Axe output 1 Left and Right Summed, record only "Front center" dry input on a mono track, later i playback this for reamp with usb too. I hope thats correct anyhow.. I don't know, haven't found a right major answer for it.
 
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Here is the same clip in a better quality:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/PVH VS X50.mp3

Ok guys. I did the comparison the way it should have done in the first place.
(Thanks to CriticalCabs, i won't be spending my money on their IR packs no more.)

setup in both sims:
gate -> 808OD -> amp -> cab

I used Redwirez [5150 Sheffield 1200 R121 cap 1inch] IR in both samples.

First part is PVH 6160 BLOCK and the second one is TSE X50.

Cheers! :encouragement:
 
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Lol, I follow your SoundCloud and I just saw this pop up in my playlist. I played it and instantly realized you revamped the test and first one is Axe II. TSE (huge fan of the guy and the effort he puts into creating these awesome sims) sounds kind of hollow and plastic (not a great description). Very solid.
 
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DropTheSun said:


Here is the same clip in a better quality:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25064384/Väliaikaiset/PVH VS X50.mp3

Ok guys. I did the comparison the way it should have done in the first place.
(Thanks to CriticalCabs, i won't be spending my money on their IR packs no more.)

setup in both sims:
gate -> 808OD -> amp -> cab

I used Redwirez [5150 Sheffield 1200 R121 cap 1inch] IR in both samples.

First part is PVH 6160 BLOCK and the second one is TSE X50.

Cheers! :encouragement:
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The Axe fx II sounds more alive to me!
 
DropTheSun said:


Ok. So i'm a big fan of Peavey 5150 EVH amp and today i had a change to test TSE X50 v2.0 (5150 EVH sim) and decided to make a little comparison with it against my Axe FX II PVH 6160 Block.

Setup:
Both sims are set to factory settings, Gate and 808 OD pedal in front of the amp and i used The Messiah IR. So the signalchain is [Guitar-Gate-808-Amp-Cab] nothing else. The tracks are double tracked.

Sooo, which one is which? You will hear the difference.
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Hey man, so the The Messiah IR is crap to buy at any event? Actually i was interested to get the pack before. The youtube clips are very promising right.
 
I saw Kevin's (ownhammer)post one page back. He had bought the same ir pack and wrote, that they had high spikes and too much low end. Sounds exactly how these irs sound. So i guess, there is no point to contact the Critical cabs. The irs are just bad and were meant to sound like that.
 
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I saw Kevin's (ownhammer)post one page back. He had bought the same ir pack and wrote, that they had high spikes and too much low end. Sounds exactly how these irs sound. So i guess, there is no point to contact the Critical cabs. The irs are just bad and were meant to sound like that.
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Mm alright, thanks man!
 
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