OK cesmag, I'll spice it up a bit.
I really don't understand why their BS meters are tripped.
You wanted an education. Well, here it is.
In my case, and that of others I've PM’d, it's due in part to the personal experiences we’ve had with you in your previous role. I suspect it is also fueled by your interest in "improvement," meanwhile referring to features of a platform which was simply unable to garner the kind of mass appeal that the Axe-Fx has earned -- precisely because it lacked a category of improvements that only Fractal Audio was able to envision and deliver. I for one communicate with several members of the old Yahoo list who are very pleased that they no longer need to fight with that "creature" (or its former support staff).
There is also a lingering suspicion in my mind that you are mining this community for some un-named competitor.
A few more tidbits of education….
But you can't really build your own things, right?
That depends on what you mean by ‘build your own things’. If you mean for example, build a simple dual chorus using twenty separate modules through an extraordinarily convoluted process, then the answer is no. Instead, you insert the desired Chorus block and adjust the parameters as desired. The Axe is not an Eventide. You can’t micromanage the algorithms, but you instead have some time in your life to get some work done while still attaining superior results.
I don't think it's about help. It's about perspective and possibilities.... "another" algorithm designer coming from "somewhere" can bring...
In the case of the H8000, an “algorithm designer” is simply someone who writes a preset using existing modules. The Axe already has as many “algorithm designers” as there are owners, many of whom freely post their presets (many quite original and of very high quality) for all to share. The difference is that most of these people are modest and don’t think they are anything special. By all means, write some presets and post them. If you are referring to designing new effects blocks, Cliff and staff have the skills required.
That "yet" is what makes things go ahead...or you'd be stuck with the first AXE unit...and you don't want to be in that position, do you?
I do not find myself in that position, nor do I think you are qualified to administer relief if I did. The Axe continually evolves via frequent firmware updates and new product releases, under the supervision of the most competent director I know of. I own the Axe and the Orville. Since I bought the Axe, the Orville is gathering dust in my closet despite its unique strengths. It’s a great unit, but I no longer use or need it. I find it amusing that you believe you can help Cliff keep us from getting “stuck” with something less than your ideal.
In general, being defensive doesn’t improve a product……
A thorough inspection of the Yahoo eventidehelps group archives will show the hypocrisy of this statement. Someone reported a bug? Deny it exists and tell them they don’t know what they are talking about. If they illustrate the bug beyond doubt with specific steps to recreate it, or get confirmation from one of the real engineers, you finally admit it while admonishing the user for having the gall to criticize the most powerful creation in processing history. A user criticizes the unit for lacking a feature? Tell them they are silly for wanting it. You took criticism of Eventide products VERY poorly. Perhaps some of the responsibility rests with Eventide for insufficient training and/or needing someone asap. Good customer service requires specialized training and certain personal traits.
How about a real DynoMyPiano TSC or TC1210 chorus in it?
How about it? This will happen only if Cliff decides to model these particular units. Perhaps you can look over his shoulder and tell him he’s doing it right.
The AXE would require either the building blocks, smaller algorithms to be chained together to create a project...or the whole thing already compiled as a single one...which is what very likely it will be.
It’s called a preset. If you are proposing a collection of twenty modules to create a basic effect, I am not interested.
i would make this prediction-
if Italo joined the fractal team, the axe-fx would permanently join the grail ranks of eventide, lexicon, and tc with a whole new wave of killer fx algorithms from the mind behind the H8000.
The mind behind the H8000???? He was hired to handle Yahoo group support and write some presets. His role as first line customer support was the reason why I and others routinely had to contact Mr. Rose or Mr. Factor directly for correct information (BTW, they and the other people I corresponded with at Eventide were all fantastic). Additionally, Fractal is already among the ‘grail ranks’.
For now, there are a number of effects I have heard in different demos and from what I have learned from the user manual.....there are effects that can't be properly made or impossible at all, particularly in the classic units replicas.
VSIG could create the proper framework for many ‘classic’ effects, but whether they sounded like the originals is debatable at best. I found no convincing BBD delay or specific phase shifter simulation in my Eventide. Other emulations were useful, but did not sound spot on to the originals. Modeling specific products goes far beyond preset creation, and is a process best left to Cliff (if he so decides) and others who are qualified. The Axe-FX II now models tape and BBD delays, as well as specific phase shifters, etc. I look forward to trying them.
A better reverb, some stuff (a lot) that I can't discuss...more control possibilities within the same preset, like having a full rack you don't need to change preset to get to another version of its parameters....like 10 presets in 1.... some routing options...a movable I/O block in the algorithm to insert external gear in the path.... and I'm sure I'll have a lot more after "surgery" on this amazing box. Oh...I forgot a "randomizer" in the mod sources.....
A better reverb? You speak out of ignorance. You have obviously not heard the Fractal reverb, so how do you presume to make such a judgment? I much prefer the Axe’s reverb to my Orville’s, both in terms of realism and user interface. The parameters available in the Eventide units are arbitrarily named, inconsistent from preset to preset, and have little if any intuitive behavior. Many of them certainly sound fantastic, but not “better”. Some of the other features you mentioned are already available, bringing into question your claim of having read the manual.
can you store 10 different values for each parameter and recall ALL values #1 or ALL values #2 (and so on...) with a single CC message with value 1 or 2? No preset change...just a CC message to turn your preset into how many the code could allow...maybe a dozen?
-a randomizer is not an lfo with random wave. It's a random numbers generator.... the Lfo goes 0 to 1 with all intermediate values that can be randomized and works pretty much like audio signal at reduced sampling frequency.
A randomizer has the ability to set free min/max values and speed and it's pure control signal.
Nope. The Axe-FX can’t do that. Wouldn’t want it to. But it can do many (IMO) FAR more important things no other processor can. And if 384 presets and X/Y switching aren’t enough, I’d look for a different product…..probably the H8000 for $5,500. But then, I’d still need the Axe-FX for those FAR more important things.
-there's other stuff....but it's more code oriented to get some specific stuff. I'd like to talk about this to the master coder.
By all means, ask Cliff for his home number. If you are correct, he obviously needs you and will be thankful for your help.
Epilogue:
Despite the thread’s title “Education Request”, despite your opening post stating that you are simply interested in learning about the Axe and what we like about it, and despite the subsequent MAJOR backpedaling once the veracity of your original intent was in question, this thread is instead a thinly-veiled attempt to present yourself as a self-important expert, possibly for employment at Fractal or as a miner for another company, for having accomplished nothing more than writing some presets (something we all do) and providing prior sub-par tech support. It's not working, so you are back to "I'm just here to learn".
After the BS you put me (and others) through, I have little patience for your self-aggrandizement. Let's have lunch.
