EDIT: Justin Timberlake - "My Love" Chord harmony inversions / Synth Sound

P****Fred

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Hello,
Would it be possible to do something like this with the pitch or synth block, or another block for that matter? (see attachment, please)

Basically it's a chord going up (first inversion, second inversion, root position, root position octave above).

I would create the pattern by using two delays, one with one repeat on a 16th note, and another one with one repeat on a 8th note, but I'm not sure of how to create the harmonies

I hope my explanation is clear :)
thanks a lot!!

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the first phase (chord inversions via pitch block) is clear.
But the end result should be the synth sound/rhythm pattern in the song "My Love" by Justin Timberlake.
Is this doable?
Thanks everyone!
 

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Do you need just this one progression or do you need it to be diatonic/intelligent?
 
Intel. Harm. mode can do that with a custom 6-note scale where every other note forms the desired triad, like E-F#-G-A-B-D. The harmony values will be +/- 3 or 5 depending on which part you want to play.

Note that the example scale also gets any inversion of a D chord. Different notes might be useful at times, depending on the part. For example you could get E & F triads with E-F-G-A-B-C.
 
To get all 3 chords you could make the scale E-F#-G-A-B-C#. Set key to E during the Em chord, then switch key to A for Am and Bm chords.
 
To get all 3 chords you could make the scale E-F#-G-A-B-C#. Set key to E during the Em chord, then switch key to A for Am and Bm chords.

No, just use the key of G major, which has the triads you're looking for.

You can't do what you're after on the AX8. I might be able to do it on the Axe-Fx III, but getting the chords to change inversions would require multiple pitch blocks/channels and multiple custom scales because the same note has different harmonies. Take the E in your A minor triad. It needs to be harmonized there with A and C. But that same pitch needs to be harmonized with G and B for your E minor chord. You'd need to switch between several different custom scales.

Arpeggios might have a suitable musical effect. If the arrangement allows in, get creative with your playing and effects. If not, turn off the effects and play the part as written with your fingers.
 
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Here's something I whipped up in about 2 minutes with one pitch block. It does not have your ascending quality, but it IS something you could do easily on the AX8. It uses a diatonic shifter set to Root, 10th, 5th, with delays of 1/4, 1/4 dot and 1/2 (which is at least the same pulse pattern as your example). In the second part I turn on a simple 1/8 dot delay. Some chorus and plex delay for grease.

Who knows. Just trying to inspire.

 
No, just use the key of G major, which has the triads you're looking for.

Just choosing G major won't work for each inversion of any one chord because you need a mix of 3rds and 4ths.

Setting up what I described above with the 6-note custom scale and a method to switch key between E and A will get the exact type of harmony described in the OP. Here's an Axe-FX II preset (convert to AX8 w/ Fractool) with pitch X & Y states configured for the two keys. (A key modifier could be used if you wanted to save one state for something else.) I panned the dry/pitch signals L/R but you could remove the volume block and adjust pitch mix/balance to have dry centered.


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Here's something I whipped up in about 2 minutes with one pitch block. It does not have your ascending quality, but it IS something you could do easily on the AX8. It uses a diatonic shifter set to Root, 10th, 5th, with delays of 1/4, 1/4 dot and 1/2 (which is at least the same pulse pattern as your example). In the second part I turn on a simple 1/8 dot delay. Some chorus and plex delay for grease.

Who knows. Just trying to inspire.



Mastermind ,,,,,it sounds Great especially 2 minutes of the "Genius "
 
Hi everybody,
I think I'll go with Bakerman's ideas.
I'll try to post my patch when I'm ready.
Thanks a lot for the great input!
This is a great community!! :)
 
Excellent job Bakerman! I had forgotten that the AX8 allowed a custom scale inside the Intelligent shifter!
 
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So, the first phase (chord inversions via pitch block) is clear.
But the end result should be the synth sound/rhythm pattern in the song "My Love" by Justin Timberlake.
Is this doable?
Thanks everyone!
 
It's possible to create the rhythm with sequencer and a level modifier. Sequencer should switch between 0% and 100% wherever a new attack is required, and the level modifier should dip to 0 in the middle with some damping when that happens. Alternatively you could avoid dealing with tempo/sync by playing the actual rhythm. It might be easier to get the right amount of staccato w/ fingers rather than a pick.
 

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That's awesome!

If I'm correct, I can add a envelope modifier to the "RUN" knob in the sequencer, to get the sequencer to start from the moment I pick a note, right?

Any ideas on how to get the filter swells?
The challenge there is to open them up from the start of the bar, to the end of the bar.
I was thinking about picking dynamics (envelope) to trigger a restart of an LFO or something, but I'm not sure :)


Thanks for all your help!!
 
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That's awesome!

If I'm correct, I can add a envelope modifier to the "RUN" knob in the sequencer, to get the sequencer to start from the moment I pick a note, right?

Any ideas on how to get the filter swells?
The challenge there is to open them up from the start of the bar, to the end of the bar.
I was thinking about picking dynamics (envelope) to trigger a restart of an LFO or something, but I'm not sure :)


Thanks for all your help!!

Use a filter block. Change the frequency with an LFO. Have the LFO tempo sync'd to a half/whole note.
 
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