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Ears not Eyes

Discussion in 'Tech Notes' started by FractalAudio, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. Rex

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    First and foremost, I'm a big proponent of using what works for you, and to hell with what works for anyone else. :)

    To me, a 1/3-octave graphic EQ is a fantastic learning tool to teach your ears what different frequency bands can do to sound. And it's darned handy to move a slider up and down and ask yourself, "Is this closer to or farther from the tone in my head?" But for my purposes, I can get what I want quicker and more precisely with three (sometimes four) bands of parametric EQ.
     
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    I have no doubt that a 4 band parametric is a great tool to have but I'm just so used to the 1/3 octave unit, why change? It also allows me to program 30 presets so the right curve is just a button touch away. I wish I'd sprung for the MIDI controllable D830 but those are substantially more expensive. I'm always on a limited budget. Story of my life!
     
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    Exactly. See point 1 in my post above. ;)
     
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    Yep. To each his own, personal tastes, etc... always good advice.
     
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    You'll have a programmable graphic in the AxeFx which i'm pretty sure will work better than that Alesis you have
     
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    How many bands? I'll need 1/3 octave resolution because I use it now. I estimate that my "kill everything" heavy crunch curve would need at least six bands of parametric equalization to match it.

    I guess I'll know soon enough. Ideally I'll be able to ditch every outboard processor I currently use. But that remains to be proven.

    This is a huge step up for me from my current rig. I would say that the Behringer Bass V-Amp Pro I'm using is not terrible (for a person who doesn't gig) but I expect infinitely more tone from the Axe-FX II.

    It'll be like jumping from a go-kart into a 911 Turbo.
     
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    very true....and agreed
    but a twin at volume 10 ... if you wanna have persmission of the big boss at home to buy new gear ..that is not the way :)
     
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    I am a proud owner of an Alesis DEQ230, as well. I have always used it to fine tune the tone of tube amps... haven't used it once since I switched to the AFXII in 2013. I will never sell it, but...
     
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    I am hunting for a DEQ830D which is midi controllable. I have tried the 8 band EQ in the Axe-FX II and it is good but I will still use my Alesis for precision tone shaping, at least some of the time. I view even an 8 band EQ as a relatively crude tone shaping device, having become so used to the finesse that is offered by a 1/3 octave EQ.

    If I can figure out HOW, that is. I need to do some reading in the manual and learn how to assign input 2 (Effects return) to input 1 so I can actually hear the loop.

    The intended setup is 4 cables, send stereo from the amp's loop send to the EQ, return stereo from the EQ to the amp's loop return. Yes, I have an effects loop block in the signal chain. But no output yet.
     
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    The Pic is gone.
     
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    Don't know if your still looking but I have one for sale if you're interested.
     
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    Thanks
     
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    fullsizeoutput_2a0.jpeg fullsizeoutput_2a1.jpeg AMEN! Check out the EQ on these amps from the other JB!
     
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    Every Marshall I ever used had everything turned up to 10. Sometimes the volume might get turned down a little, but only a little. I used a 50W plexi for small clubs and a 100W stack for arenas. I played a Les Paul exclusively in those days and loved that combination. Now I've got a Legacy 2-12 combo that doesn't sound right maxed out, so I've had to experiment more. It has a much smoother sound than the Marshall and actually feeds back at lower volumes. I agree it's all in the ears. It is also in how much SPL gets back into the guitar. And if you're trying to get a note to really sustain, try moving to or back from the amp. Every note has a wavelength and that is a specific distance, or multiple thereof. Try it and hear.
     
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