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Drum VSTs - how do you program your MIdI??

Ive only ever used GetGoodDrums PIV kit but have had good results from it. The velocities allow many different samples, feels, and styles of drumming. I would easily recommend it.

As far as writing goes I like to draw in my beats with a mouse for the most part and just move things like the kick and snare to see how different grooves feel. This was tough at first but after a bit of time I find I can program what I need a lot quicker than punching things in with my fingers.
 
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Bruce Sokolovic

Experienced
Ive only ever used GetGoodDrums PIV kit but have had good results from it. The velocities allow many different samples, feels, and styles of drumming. I would easily recommend it.

As far as writing goes I like to draw in my beats with a mouse for the most part and just move things like the kick and snare to see how different grooves feel. This was tough at first but after a bit of time I find I can program what I need a lot quicker than punching things in with my fingers.
I used to work that way and found it terribly time consuming. An AKAI MPD or similar would greatly speed up your workflow. Anything with a few pads on it, really.
 

Jumpback

Inspired
SD3 all the way for me, Love writing to their Metal Midi packs then Edit accordingly wha La Song, also write with NI Kontakt S49 in Logic, such a great hobby for this old guy
 
Bfd2 had an automation writer tool

does anyone know more about it and if they exist in the new version ?
BFD3 has that feature, and it works almost like on the fly jam session automation. I had more success on the BFD2 side of things than this, but they still do work - basically you set a “palette” and it’s like a matrix set, and then you can tell the playback how to “automate”- either randomly , sequentially or however you set it ... thing is I could only jam but I couldn’t get it to record the tracks (at least not as midi events)

in any case, the Best VST, bang for your buck, best and most stable coding goes to XLN addictive drums 2, and while i say that as a well informed opinion, it’s actually more or less the truth - and that’s the facts Jack - please refer to my comparison thread about XLN and Logic drummer if you wish

best of luck
 

RevDrucifer

Experienced
SD3 all the way for me, Love writing to their Metal Midi packs then Edit accordingly wha La Song, also write with NI Kontakt S49 in Logic, such a great hobby for this old guy

I see my previous posts in here were before I got SD3. In a hissy fit one evening, not being able to tweak the sounds in EZD2 enough, I bought SD3 and it was one of my favorite gear/studio/plug-ins I’ve bought yet. Remarkably powerful and being able to shut off all the processing in the onboard mixer so you just have the raw drums is great, but the fact that the onboard mixer is so damn good, I barely do any post-VST processing outside of a parallel bus and a separate reverb bus just for the snare.

I can’t remember which SDX it was, Metal Foundry or Metal Masters, but I wanted the Tama Starclassic kit and though those SDX’s aren’t cheap ($180) it was worth it! Even the presets are awesome and I haven’t said that about any of them so far!

The other night, after loading up Cygnus, I took a song I’ve had a demo of for a while, re-amped the guitars/bass and ran the drum MIDI through SD3 instead of EZD2, put on the Starclassic kit I put together and when I listened to the bounce in my truck the next day, I was grinning ear to ear. There’s a specific sound I’ve been going for with my recordings and those upgrades/updates has given me the ability to obtain that sound. Now the work starts of taking all the demos and turning them into finished songs. Thankfully, I’m REALLY excited about doing it.
 

Jumpback

Inspired
I see my previous posts in here were before I got SD3. In a hissy fit one evening, not being able to tweak the sounds in EZD2 enough, I bought SD3 and it was one of my favorite gear/studio/plug-ins I’ve bought yet. Remarkably powerful and being able to shut off all the processing in the onboard mixer so you just have the raw drums is great, but the fact that the onboard mixer is so damn good, I barely do any post-VST processing outside of a parallel bus and a separate reverb bus just for the snare.

I can’t remember which SDX it was, Metal Foundry or Metal Masters, but I wanted the Tama Starclassic kit and though those SDX’s aren’t cheap ($180) it was worth it! Even the presets are awesome and I haven’t said that about any of them so far!

The other night, after loading up Cygnus, I took a song I’ve had a demo of for a while, re-amped the guitars/bass and ran the drum MIDI through SD3 instead of EZD2, put on the Starclassic kit I put together and when I listened to the bounce in my truck the next day, I was grinning ear to ear. There’s a specific sound I’ve been going for with my recordings and those upgrades/updates has given me the ability to obtain that sound. Now the work starts of taking all the demos and turning them into finished songs. Thankfully, I’m REALLY excited about doing it.
Glad to hear that, and sounds like you have the skills to make it happen! I have like 1 TB External filled with all my EZD and SD3 stuff and would be sad if I ever lost it lol
 

RevDrucifer

Experienced
Glad to hear that, and sounds like you have the skills to make it happen! I have like 1 TB External filled with all my EZD and SD3 stuff and would be sad if I ever lost it lol

Yeah, I really need to invest in a couple hard drives to store stuff on. Between the VST’s and amount of Logic sessions I have on my iMac, the 2TB drive is getting filled QUICKLY.
 

Dave Merrill

Fractal Fanatic
I'm still interested in what I thought was the originally intended topic of this thread, how people WRITE their drum tracks. My guess is that most people here don't have the skills, gear, or space to perform them polyphonically live on a full e-kit or acoustic kit with triggers.

Do you point and click on a grid?
Perform an instrument or two at a time with your fingers or sticks on some sort of drum pad thingy?
On a keyboard?
Edit grooves that come with your DAW or drum plugin?
Generate tracks with software?

Once you've got something down, do you edit it by hand in your DAW?
Quantize or apply "groove templates" ?
If you do, a little or a lot?
 
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Jumpback

Inspired
Once I throw a groove on my track, I then use Editor in my DAW, and on the parts I need more intricate accents I play parts in with My Midi controller; A 49 Komplete.
 

Chewie5150

Power User
Cubase drum editor with EZD2 and use Akai MPD232 pads programmed to EZD2. I usually create small loops with the basic bass kick and snare. duplicate over many bars then add in other notes with mouse clicks here and there. eventually , and after learning from studying the midi loops avail on EZD, you get sense of the patterns visually. and then going back n forth with the quantize grid so you are getting the notes to hit where they should. I'm no drummer but have decent sense of what drums are being hit...challenged myself to create drum track for Rush Tom Sawyer. I have to say after about 25 bars of painstakingly trying to recreate how much i came to appreciate Neal Peart.

Long ago I saved some youtube vids of Misha Mansoor and his process for programming drums. I learned a lot of simple tricks/tips there..as he also used cubase. Here's a link to one if you're interested.
 

la noise

Member
I see my previous posts in here were before I got SD3. In a hissy fit one evening, not being able to tweak the sounds in EZD2 enough, I bought SD3 and it was one of my favorite gear/studio/plug-ins I’ve bought yet. Remarkably powerful and being able to shut off all the processing in the onboard mixer so you just have the raw drums is great, but the fact that the onboard mixer is so damn good, I barely do any post-VST processing outside of a parallel bus and a separate reverb bus just for the snare.

I can’t remember which SDX it was, Metal Foundry or Metal Masters, but I wanted the Tama Starclassic kit and though those SDX’s aren’t cheap ($180) it was worth it! Even the presets are awesome and I haven’t said that about any of them so far!

The other night, after loading up Cygnus, I took a song I’ve had a demo of for a while, re-amped the guitars/bass and ran the drum MIDI through SD3 instead of EZD2, put on the Starclassic kit I put together and when I listened to the bounce in my truck the next day, I was grinning ear to ear. There’s a specific sound I’ve been going for with my recordings and those upgrades/updates has given me the ability to obtain that sound. Now the work starts of taking all the demos and turning them into finished songs. Thankfully, I’m REALLY excited about doing it.

Appreciate your posts in this thread. :)

I have been using an old Roland V-Drum kit direct and am
eager to use it to trigger software in Reaper. Haven't pulled
the plug yet, though. Still researching... I mean.... hemming and
hawing. :)

I still like a lot of the sounds I am getting out of the Roland module,
but know I can improve that dramatically using the kit to trigger software
via MIDI.

And yeah, drums are damn fun to play.
 
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