Drive Pedal Heaven

That's my approach as well. I like having two gain stages with differing characteristics, and stack them for additional mayhem.
 
Admin M@ said:
Anyone else loving this update as much as I am? I've always been a "pedal platform" player.

The way I use drive blocks is to run two of them in series. One low gain, one low/med gain. Use both for "more". Try it!
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100%. The smoothness and meatiness of my two live preset drives stacked is 👌🏻👌🏻

BB Pre (A)/ACB (B) + Jam Ray ----> AC-20 (A)/ODS-100 HRM (B)
 
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As I stated before I never used pedals in all my years of playing live. I bought one drive pedal when I first got into guitar. It was a black MXR Distortion+. Hated the thing. Sounded like a can of bees. Of course I was playing it through a solid-state Crate so...

That said I've been experimenting with the drives into various cleanish amps and really digging some of them. Into a Deluxe Reverb or Twin Reverb is doing it for me.
 
I used to run four drives into a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia w/Celestion Blue. Used the drives in different combinations as gain stages. The trick to keep things under control was to keep all of the drives gain @ 30% or less. I also put my time-based effects in the mic line (pseudo 4CM). It's the only rig I miss.
 
I like the tone of a drive pedal into a cleaner amp equally to the sound of a cranked amp on its own...

It’s like a super high revving but small displacement f1 engine is awesome in its own way, but so are good old big displacement v8’s.
 
I have never been a pedal guy. Always used multi-effects. So I am not even an amp guy. Mainly because when I was a youngster I couldn't afford neither amps nor pedals.
How I see pedal platforms that you have a one-trick pony amp and you have to make the most out of it so you stick drives on the front of it to make it more versatile.
But why would I want to use use a pedal that turns a Fender into a Marshall, when I can just use a Marshall in the Axe-fx? Why do I want to turn a Plexi in a super high gain monster, when I can use a bunch of amps, that was made for that?

I like boosting, eq-ing, but I am learning how to use the drives that make me go, oh yeah, that's so much better, but I always just return to the amps.
I have a lot to learn :D
 
On that note, I have been interested in Fuzzes, lately, but having a hard time reproducing the interaction between the guitar and the fuzz pedal, compared what I hear online. Any tips?
 
levipeto said:
On that note, I have been interested in Fuzzes, lately, but having a hard time reproducing the interaction between the guitar and the fuzz pedal, compared what I hear online. Any tips?
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Isn’t really going to happen as the axe is by nature always going to act like it’s behind a buffer, so won’t get that same clean Ge fuzz tone just by rolling your volume pot back from 10 to 9
 
FractalAudio said:
As I stated before I never used pedals in all my years of playing live. I bought one drive pedal when I first got into guitar. It was a black MXR Distortion+. Hated the thing. Sounded like a can of bees. Of course I was playing it through a solid-state Crate so...

That said I've been experimenting with the drives into various cleanish amps and really digging some of them. Into a Deluxe Reverb or Twin Reverb is doing it for me.
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Coming to the Dark Side (tm) :D
 
Admin M@ said:
Anyone else loving this update as much as I am? I've always been a "pedal platform" player.

The way I use drive blocks is to run two of them in series. One low gain, one low/med gain. Use both for "more". Try it!
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Do you have a particular preference on which one is first?

I tend to prefer the lower gain pedal "closest" to the amp and feed to higher gain into the lower gain.
 
part of the beauty of drives is the pre-eq that comes with them. It's more than just gain stages, it's shaping the amp as well.
 
what is it that you guys get from a
pedal+amp drive tone that you can’t get from an amp?

I understand fuzzes or extreme/weird settings etc...but lately i feel more and more the (right) amp distortion/crunch/lead tone is almost allways better than the (over) compressed pedal tone.

Not judging, trying to understand.
 
Semih Yanyali said:
what is it that you guys get from a
pedal+amp drive tone that you can’t get from an amp?

I understand fuzzes or extreme/weird settings etc...but lately i feel more and more the (right) amp distortion/crunch/lead tone is almost allways better than the (over) compressed pedal tone.

Not judging, trying to understand.
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Read the post literally right before yours.
 
unix-guy said:
Read the post literally right before yours.
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ok, obviously:) it’s a drastic eq/low cut etc and (for me unpleasant) compression where with the right amp block i have the freedom to shape the tone, amount of comp and dist.

I can understand it yields
much faster to a mix ready tone that cuts through which is consistant/mid heavy. But still the compression and lack of freedom of shaping makes me lately stay away from it.

Maybe i should ask my question better. Do you guys think, just as an example, putting bb pre or ac booster infront of a ac30 style amp (or any combination you love) gives a tone (better) which you cant get with only an amp and maybe an eq or amp input drive type selection.
 
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