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Wish Doomy Amps

tade

Member
I totally support the request for more "doom" amps. Matamps make such an amazing platform for fuzz sounds. It´s the only area where I just can´t get a fully convincing tone.
 
Do you have the
Try this preset on for size. I created it based on some Kemper stoner profiles created by a KPA user named aguilar. Ironically, he was a former FAS user and was trying to recreate his stoner presets on the Kemper.

It uses the stock SV Bass amp and cab. The preset is quite a bit more brutal than the sounds in that video though. The switches are setup to peel off parts of the sound if you need it for certain passages.
Do you have the AxeFxII Version of this? This says it's for AX8. I thought I remember there being a converter but I'm not seeing it, I'll dig into it when I get some more time. I've fiddled with some fuzz pedals and the SV Bass in the past and it was ok, it still ended up sounding very digital and flat to me after a few hours but I can give the preset a try once I get it working.
 
Try this preset on for size. I created it based on some Kemper stoner profiles created by a KPA user named aguilar. Ironically, he was a former FAS user and was trying to recreate his stoner presets on the Kemper.

It uses the stock SV Bass amp and cab. The preset is quite a bit more brutal than the sounds in that video though. The switches are setup to peel off parts of the sound if you need it for certain passages.
I had a chance to try this out after learning of the FracTool and although I appreciate the preset it's not really what I was going for. Here are a couple of presets I've uploaded that get a little closer to what I'm wanting:

Stonez: http://axechange.fractalaudio.com/detail.php?preset=5753

Windhand: http://axechange.fractalaudio.com/detail.php?preset=5754
 

flageolet

New Member
I adore the Axe, but I just cannot get that thick, warm fuzz or Matamp tone.

Many quotes in this thread that reflect my feeling towards the axe.
Although very few seem interested, this is exactly what I'm lacking. So thought to revive once more.

I also cannot get a high gain, warm but not muffled sounding sludge distortion. Seems to go to metal, too crispy too fast
Fellow guitarist has a matamp and the thing just sounds so damn beautiful :)
 

dr bonkers

Fractal Fanatic
Vendor
Many quotes in this thread that reflect my feeling towards the axe.
Although very few seem interested, this is exactly what I'm lacking. So thought to revive once more.

I also cannot get a high gain, warm but not muffled sounding sludge distortion. Seems to go to metal, too crispy too fast
Fellow guitarist has a matamp and the thing just sounds so damn beautiful :)
What cab is he using with the Matamp?

Many of the amp models in the Fractal get crispy due to the baked in IR files in the unit.

That's why I started offering ir files, many of ehich can get a doomy sound like the Sunn. https://www.drbonkerssoundlab.com
 

lastcaress83

New Member
I'm sure that, with enough work, the folks at Fractal could nail my Orange OR120 but I have yet to hear a sim that even comes close. One really interesting thing about the amp is that the combination of massive coupling capacitors and the fact that the cathodyne phase inverter comes immediately after the FAC/bass boost reeks havoc! It causes the phase inverter to overload and passes the signal to the power tubes in a very chaotic way. It's typical for someone who is cranking these amps to notice (if they care to pay attention) that one side of the amps power tubes always get hit much harder than the other side but the two sides waiver in unpredictable ways. This imbalance in the power section tends to create an extremely thick and complex distorted sound, almost like two amps at once, that somewhat resembles a massive tweed deluxe. It seems to be a bit difficult to replicate in software for people who have attempted it. I've built a Matamp GT120 clone and the same thing happens in those to a lesser degree. Still, I wish Fractal would give it a shot! I love my amps but it would be very convenient to have it all in a rack unit.
 

B:ASSMASTER

Experienced
I'd actually prefer a Green or Matamp for doomy stuff. They have more gain than the Orange OR series. I actually bought the AmpliTube Orange package for the OR-120 model. It doesn't sound too shabby.

Side note: @dr bonkers just released an 8x10 Orange cab. About to snag that, today.
 

lastcaress83

New Member
The Matamp/Green amps sound great, too. In my experience building both, the Matamp's are much more "polite" sounding with their onboard gain... my Orange is much meaner than the GT120's I've built/heard. Maybe GT120's are a better platform for fuzz, but I never use fuzz. Here's my amp in action at 2 very different gain/eq levels. It's modified with a Ken Fischer style post-phase inverter master volume which, although it doesn't add gain, it seems to make the amp a bit more transparent and thick sounding(please forgive the slop)
 
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crg123

Experienced
Awhile back Cliff said that the Sunn Model T was similar to the JTM45.

You can get super close if you use a Brit JM45 into an Orange IR (SinMix or ML) then crank the Drive, Bass, Mid, Treble, Presence, & Depth. Then turn the MV trim to 2.00. Add in a bright switch and a boost. Then Lower the input trim.

From there is just adjust accordingly. I usually also lower the gain a bit back and add a PEQ to bring back some of the highs and lows.
 

B:ASSMASTER

Experienced
You can get super close if you use a Brit JM45 into an Orange IR (SinMix or ML) then crank the Drive, Bass, Mid, Treble, Presence, & Depth. Then turn the MV trim to 2.00. Add in a bright switch and a boost. Then Lower the input trim.

From there is just adjust accordingly. I usually also lower the gain a bit back and add a PEQ to bring back some of the highs and lows.
That's it? Sounds super simple! :rolleyes:

:D
 

dr bonkers

Fractal Fanatic
Vendor

zenaxe

Fractal Fanatic
Yeah... I wish @FractalAudio would give this category a little of the FAS Magic/Love. Seems like a perfect candidate... these are mostly older amps where there are obtainable specimens and they are not modern multichannel switch-laden PCB amps so might not be as R&D intensive... probably likely to have some sort of schematics... etc.
 
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