DL4 looper functionality

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mjb234

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I recently got an old DL4 and have started absolutely loving it for the super easy to use looper interface for live performance/tweaking

Wondering does the looper in the fractal have a way have footswitches assigned on a controller to the same functions as the DL4?

Record/overdub
Play/stop
Play once
Half speed/reverse (with double tapping)

Would be super cool to have it all in one unit for live with the same kind of foot muscle memory 😂

If not it’s not a disaster, would probably just put my dl4 in an external loop

Cheers!
 
mjb234 said:
I recently got an old DL4 and have started absolutely loving it for the super easy to use looper interface for live performance/tweaking

Wondering does the looper in the fractal have a way have footswitches assigned on a controller to the same functions as the DL4?

Record/overdub
Play/stop
Play once
Half speed/reverse (with double tapping)

Would be super cool to have it all in one unit for live with the same kind of foot muscle memory 😂

If not it’s not a disaster, would probably just put my dl4 in an external loop

Cheers!
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The default FC6 and FC12 looper layouts have all these functions, which you can customize to your liking.
 
I should note I’m not on an FC controller,

I’m on another midi controller but it is fully functional with cc & pc changes with every button
 
mjb234 said:
I should note I’m not on an FC controller,

I’m on another midi controller but it is fully functional with cc & pc changes with every button
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I did the same with a Morningstar, so yes, you can with midi.
Now I have the FC and it’s much easier anyway.
 
With Morningstar you can, so I confirm Yes, I did it in the past.

There is "Toggle mode" (on the Morningstar) that allows you to have 2 different functions for the same switch at first press and second press.
 
Gl4th said:
With Morningstar you can, so I confirm Yes, I did it in the past.

There is "Toggle mode" (on the Morningstar) that allows you to have 2 different functions for the same switch at first press and second press.
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There is also shift state so i think you can get 3 functions now.
 
54321pj said:
Short answer - No!
Almost impossible to believe I know… but there are a few who have asked for this repeatedly including me… the old Axe FX II could do it.. but the III.. no.
https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/looper-axe-fx-iii.162864/#post-2004331
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Which function, exactly, are you having issues with? Every other answer is a resounding "yes," including from my own experience with the FCB1010 (although not sure how I'd do half-speed/reverse with same switch, but everything else would work just fine).
 
Gl4th said:
I did the same with a Morningstar, so yes, you can with midi.
Now I have the FC and it’s much easier anyway.
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Sweet

Will look into assigning that tonight, as long as all those features are assignable to midi my controller should be able to nail it

Thanks!
 
Ugly Bunny said:
Which function, exactly, are you having issues with? Every other answer is a resounding "yes," including from my own experience with the FCB1010 (although not sure how I'd do half-speed/reverse with same switch, but everything else would work just fine)
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Record. Stop. Play.
Using assigned scene controllers.
 
All of the Looper functions are modifier assignable and you can also globally assign directly to them in the MIDI/Remote menu as well.

How are you using scene controllers to control the looper? Are you changing scenes whenever you want to record or stop or play?
 
mr_fender said:
All of the Looper functions are modifier assignable and you can also globally assign directly to them in the MIDI/Remote menu as well.

How are you using scene controllers to control the looper? Are you changing scenes whenever you want to record or stop or play?
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Never had a problem eother, with FC or a midi controller. My only looper complaint is not being able to receive tempo from beatbuddy/sdrum.
 
The Axe FX will sync its tempo to MIDI clock that's received at the MIDI In port. It won't time stretch existing loops though.
 
mr_fender said:
How are you using scene controllers to control the looper? Are you changing scenes whenever you want to record or stop or play?
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Yes I change presets and scenes via a boss midi foot controller. 128 midi messages gives me 16 presets with all 8 scenes in each. I never need more than 16 presets for a gig. I just step through them when I need to change presets, scenes and any modifiable parameters I want within reason (so it fits within my 8 scene per preset) with the Axe II you could use the basic looper functions just by changing scenes. With the III, I don’t see an option for this - not on axe edit anyway…. Unless I’m missing something? Which is definitely possible 👍🏻
 
54321pj said:
Yes I change presets and scenes via a boss midi foot controller. 128 midi messages gives me 16 presets with all 8 scenes in each. I never need more than 16 presets for a gig. I just step through them when I need to change presets, scenes and any modifiable parameters I want within reason (so it fits within my 8 scene per preset) with the Axe II you could use the basic looper functions just by changing scenes. With the III, I don’t see an option for this - not on axe edit anyway…. Unless I’m missing something? Which is definitely possible 👍🏻
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I stand corrected. The looper controls do not support modifiers in the Axe III like they did in the II. I could have sworn that I remember seeing the yellow circles on those, but I must be thinking back to the II. You can assign MIDI CC's directly to them in the MIDI/Remote menu, but not scene controllers unfortunately.
 
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