VegaBaby
Fractal Fanatic
dpeterson said:exactly... just like i cant make the phase sound like a phase 90... it's too clean in the axe.. the phase 90 has some character.. and that character is it not being "prestine".
Just like everyone harps about true bypass... back in the day (the recordings all these guys are trying to reproduce) nobody had true bypass.. or cared... they had 100' coiled cords, no $100 power cables.. just thrown together... that is part of the charm.
I have to agree with that partly. There was just a topic on TGP where someone compared a real Phase90 to the one in the M13 and the one out of Thorn's VH patch (which could have probably be dialed in closer) in a blind test and most people chose and prefered either the real thing or the M13 ( :shock: ). I didn't actually, liked the real and the Fractal one. But I guess my point is, clean is not always best and a lot of those old units sound the way they sound because of that...dirt.
But, having said that, there is a difference in 'dirt'. Analog dirt can definitely be nice, digital dirt not so much (as seen with the G*****). Cliff mastered to introduce a bit of that charming dirt into the amp sims and maybe similiar to warmth, bias, transformer bla bla bla...etc...there could be some parameters introduced into the modulation effects which enable the user to, well, make it more dirty again (and I'm not just talking about adding a tape drive)...
Even digital dirt can be charming when it comes from the right decade :lol: . Call me crazy, but I'm still using a QuadraVerb and a SPX90 together with my Axe. These units definitely have NOT the cleanest digital signal path, but since they are so old, their 20bit converters actually sound cool to me. When measured, probably horrible compared to today's standards, but , they just 'sound' if you know what I mean.
To finish this and not leave the wrong impression. Still really like the Fractal Chorus and QuadChorus and definitely prefer them over a lot of other units on the market