Uh, no. The use of IRs isn't the problem. And it's not a technical/modeling obstacle, it's a physical obstacle -- as in, a particular guitar cab's directivity characteristic cannot be replicated through an FRFR due to the laws of physics. Did you read what I wrote out in my previous comment?What im saying is that the Fractal is half modeler(amp section) and half Sampler, like the Kemper(Cabs IR). What i say is employ the same modeling technology for the Cab recreation. The mic element is a necessity at this point because of the sampling., Its not an aesthetic choice. Its only a technical obstacle.
It doesn’t matter man. He thinks no one has tried certain things because he wants it all to work a certain way. We can give facts forever, but because we can’t specifically say we tried every idea he (or anyone) can come up with, it won’t be respected as an answer. It’s a common argument fallacy. It’s the same as saying “how can you prove that _____ didn’t happen in [insert a date very long ago]? You weren’t there physically to see it, so it’s possible it did happen.”Uh, no. The use of IRs isn't the problem. And it's not a technical/modeling obstacle, it's a physical obstacle -- as in, a particular guitar cab's directivity characteristic cannot be replicated through an FRFR due to the laws of physics. Did you read what I wrote out in my previous comment?
Pump the brakes a tad there sport. Simply trying to clarify the end product of this new technology other than some speaker modeling thing 'so everyone can hear how my amp sounds in the room'.Use clean cab when fit and use mic'd cab when fit. Where is the contradiction? there are all kinds of situations.
Huh? This either makes little sense or I don't understand what you're trying to say.
No. It's not EQ, it's physical properties, that give you amp-in-the-room sound. You can't, for example, EQ your way to making a closed-back cabinet in the room sound like an open-back cabinet would in the same room.uhhh an FRFR driver is just a speaker, in some kind of cab. what does it sound like to just run an amp block into an FRFR monitor?? Do they have a boatload more high end than a "guitar speaker" so it sounds bad? An FRFR driver and its built in crappy class D solid state power amp IS an amp in the room. Shouldn't you be able to just EQ to taste to get the low end and high end and mids how you want it to resonate? I've never played on any FRFR stuff, i figured they would be basically tiny guitarist PA systems. It's still just a speaker in a cab of some variation.
not really. the physical design of a 4x12 or 2x12 or even 1x12, and the speaker design itself causes the sound to disperse in specific ways and sound different, physically and spatially. it's not just EQ. if it was just EQ, we'd easily be able to nail the sensation by now.Shouldn't you be able to just EQ to taste to get the low end and high end and mids how you want it to resonate? I've never played on any FRFR stuff, i figured they would be basically tiny guitarist PA systems. It's still just a speaker in a cab of some variation.
If this thread were about picking up a gallon of milk at the store it would go as follows:
Man "I need to pick up some milk at the store"
Wife "Take the car"
Man "I need to find a way for the store to bring the milk to me"
Wife "Take the car and get the milk"
Man "The store needs to invent a teleportation device to beam the milk to my house"
Wife "Just take the car"
Man "Maybe the store can send me a cow so that I will always have milk"
Plug it into the same guitar cab. It does the tube amp thing just fine.After endless comparisons with traditional original gear and sleepless nights on the Axe Fx, and sheer frustration with how the Digital domain mimics the original gear and enviournment/experience, my conclusion is that the only thing Digital gear can have going for it is to offer a sound that a Tube Amp and Guitar Cabinet can not do, otherwise its going to chase forever the original thing unsuccesfully, as it is not it, its a different thing.. Just like no Hendrix imitator can sound like Hendrix, because he is not him...
I am hoping that with this conclusion i can move on and stop annoying the forum...